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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:46 PM
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Republicans Contine To Push Dishonest View of 2004 Election
Republicans Contine To Push Dishonest View of 2004 Election

From Light Up The Darkness

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/?view=plink&id=769

Not only did the Republicans win with a campaign based upon dirty tactics ranging from dishonesty in describing their own policies to greatly distorting Kerry's proposals and record, to outright voter suppression, but now they try to cover up their deceptions. Today the Williamsport Sun-Gazette takes issue with recent statements from John Kerry regarding Republican dirty tricks. They claim that Democrats lost not due to Republican tricks:


"We would suggest an alternative explanation for Democrats' electoral troubles at the national level: They've jumped off the left end, openly rejected mainstream American values, devoted themselves to blaming America first in foreign affairs and embraced high-tax, high-spend economics."

It is remarkable how many deceptions they sneak into this paragraph alone! Let's look at them one by one:

"Democrats' electoral troubles at the national level" This is a common tactic of Republicans, claiming greater support and success, dating at least back to the days of Richard Nixon claiming support of the "silent majority" prior to being forced from office. Their claims of major electoral troubles are greatly exaggerated. George Bush won reelection by a remarkably small margin for an incumbent President, especially during war time. Republicans would have lost House seats if not for their redistricting shenanegans. Republicans did better in the Senate, but primarily by taking Democratic seats in red states as a long process of realignment has continued.

"They've jumped off the left end" It is Republicans who won by moving to the extremes, successfully bringing out far more people on the right than anticipated, allowing them to win despite Kerry's greater support among both liberals and moderates. While Republicans may have won the vote, a majority of voters supported Democrats' positions on virtually every position polled. Republicans try to paint their opponents as being far more liberal than they really are, such as when they claimed that Kerry was ranked the number one most liberal Senator, when his overall record was actually at number eleven.

"openly rejected mainstream American values" Most likely a code word for not engaging in the gay bashing which helped bring right wingers to the polls. Despite opposition to gay marriage, the general public overall is becoming more tolerant of gays, including support for civil unions--the position held by John Kerry. It is the Republicans who are opposing the principles American was founded on including separation of powers and separation of church and state. They violate American values as they support greater governmental intrusion in people's oppose successful programs such as Medicare and Social Security.

"devoted themselves to blaming America first in foreign affairs" A fiction to hide the fact that Republican are clueless as to the real problems we face, with phoney claims that we were attacked on 9/11 because al Qaeda hates us for our freedom, and all the lies to get us into an unnecessary war (while failing to adequately take on terrorism).

"embraced high-tax, high-spend economics" It is the Republicans who have run up a record deficit while the Democrats advocated a pay as you go policy. The only high taxes the Republicans care about is having any taxes at all on the ultra-wealthy. The Republicans attempted to reduce taxes for the wealthy alone until the Democrats insisted upon the middle class tax cut. From John Kerry to Howard Dean, Democrats are now led by fiscal conservatives who realize that the only thing worse then higher taxes and higher spending is higher borrowing and higher spending.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:50 PM
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1. We aren't blaming America first
in foreign affairs at all. We blame this administration who is trying their damnest to do America in. They have to be called on their phoney patriotism, it's an outright facist technique they are employing.
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Debs Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:18 PM
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2. Lets look at that blame America first concept
It is of course a dodge to exempt the GOP from any accountability whatsoever. It is a very elementary moral principle that we are most responsible for OUR actions. We SHOULD be looking at our own house first, or as the bible puts it in deference to the simplistic red staters. We should be looking to the beam in our OWN eye before we talk about the mote in our brothers
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 05:59 PM
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7. Change starts within
In an odd way, blaming America for not responding to terrorist attacks since the 80's is blaming America first too. Totally dismisses the concept that maybe we aren't omnipotent and whether we respond with more force or more diplomacy, other people might just want us to STFU and go home.

Besides, you always have to look at your past actions when deciding a future course of actions, whatever they are. That's just common sense.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:46 PM
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3. Let's just cut to the chase, and right through the smokescreen.
Your "moral values" were all bullshit- There never was anybody who won the election.

There is no "56 million americans greatly enlightened."

This entire election was a sham, produced by fraud and supression alone.

http://www.cronos.com/electionfraud http://www.bradblog.com

And there's no way to deny it anymore either. Chew on those 'values'.....
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:51 PM
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4. Exactly
They have nothing to run on. They know they stole the election so that's why they have to cry "moral values" and shit like that. Bush is as moral as Hitler was.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:25 PM
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5. Yep...
Sad that even the freepers don't believe it....They think he just did what he always does, stole it and the worst part is its for the good of the country.

This drunk idiot isn't even Hitler calibur, oh no, thats the coward slime Dick Cheney. He Cheney has no real personality.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:49 PM
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6. I don't think they "won". As you say, public opinion does favor mostly
democratic views, so then, who are these overwhleming number of voters who voted for Bush. Unless they suffered temporary insanity, the numbers do not make sense. This fact alone warrants a closer look at the election results.

"openly rejected mainstream American values", I also believe is a code word for the few worshippers of bush.

The current administration does not have any interest in foreign affairs, it is hellbent on imposing it's affairs onto every one, and claim it to be "mainstream global values" next.

and all this from people who have no ear for opposing views.

The GOP has a tremendous talent to twist the truth straight in your face.
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 07:22 PM
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8. I prefered to answer the editorial avoiding the theft issue
Without compelling evidence, it looks like just being a poor loser, with a large tin foil hat component. I felt it was better to take on their issues as they are wrong even if you grant them the assumption that the election results were accurate.
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