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Bush_Eats_Beef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:43 AM Original message |
Salon: Ratzinger wrote letter (6/04) that handed Catholic vote to Bush |
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realFedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. yeah, but your mainstream papers are still effusing about Ratz |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. In the words of Mike Malloy.... |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. weLcome to DU |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'll check my facts on this, but I'm pretty sure that the Bishops... |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It's not a matter of whether the Bishops followed this advice... |
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Bush_Eats_Beef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. The message was very forcefully delivered at the time. |
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ThorsHammer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. I think you're right w/r/t to the US Bishops |
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funflower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
6. And they scream about the U.N. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. This doesn't seem like my church anymore |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. Old nazis gotta stick together. n/t |
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fryguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. Guess I wont be voting Benedict in '08 - n/t |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. My clan of Catholics in western rural Ohio would have voted |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Can we see the letter itself? |
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Bush_Eats_Beef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. The letter wasn't read from the pulpits |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. OK, I reread Blumenthal's piece |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. handed Catholic vote to Bush? |
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Bush_Eats_Beef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Agreed...but the Catholics who took the bait WERE handed to Bush. |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. now I'm beginning to understand why only one Catholic has been President.. |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. This is from a man who had no conviction when he was young. |
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hippiegranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
20. But... but... but |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Right. Even Pope Ratgut couldn't do what Diebold did. |
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femme.democratique (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
22. Ratzinger will live to regret that letter |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. Oh come on Blumenthal |
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cmkramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I'm a great admirer of Sidney's |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I think there was as much as a five percent or more increase |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-05 10:07 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Very nicely stated! One question, though... |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-05 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
26. all my catholic friends voted for KERRY, so from where I stand, I have to |
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