Need Help on Freeper Argument

[Mary in KC]

We are arguing over why the president and all of his mighty men (thugs) can use taxpayer money for town meetings where only people who agree with them are allowed in.

Is this really legal? Even though they are using millions in taxpayer dollars?

[LoZoccolo]

1. I wouldn't beg this person to agree with you.

Just say that you don't Bush* wasting your money on this junk charade, and leave it at that.

[Mary in KC]

4. That sounds good to me. I'll try it.

Thank you.

[In Truth We Trust]

2. are you seriously arguing that. On it's face it is illegal. Just turn the

around and pose the question as " would it be o.k. if bill dlc clinton did this would it be legal"

[Mary in KC]

8. That's a good one, too. He thinks Clinton and Hillary and "whores"

[Toots]

3. Some mighty uniting going on don't you think.

No it is not right and some Democrats in Congress have actually asked for justification from the Whitehouse. Do you think they will receive an answer?

[Zenlitened]

5. Legal? I Dunno. I do know it's flat-out Un-American.

We, the people, are the government. And we, the people, have a right to hear what our elected officials have to say for themselves.

Beyond that, I'd also remind any freeper that Bush is just a panty-waist, too scared to face anything but a crowd of fawning, gushing boot-lickers.

[NewJeffCT]

6. it's kind of a grey area, I think

But, I think the GAO has said it is not legal... I'm not sure, though. The GAO is the investigative arm of Congress, and since Congress is currently run by Republicans, the head of the GAO is a Republican.

[emanymton]

7. Legal? With These Thugs NOTHING Is Illegal!!!

And there is nothing the people can do about it!

[nickgutierrez]

9. It's illegal to use tax dollars as campaign funds.

Any event that limits participation based on political affiliation is a campaign event (I'm pretty sure this is right, anyway).

So, this is illegal.

[NMDemDist2]

10. Repub Congressmen Question Bush on townhall meetings

http://magorn.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/8/163338/4592

worth a read, even the party faithful question this...

[Dr Ron]

11. Town meetings over policy are different than campaign events

Campaign events paid for out of contributions are different. While I would still disagree with the Bush policy, they are technically within their rights.

However, a public meeting, paid for out of tax money is a totally different situation. It is both misuse of tax money, and a violation of democratic principles, to have such meetings closed to only those who agree with the party in power.

You might have a tough time getting Republicans to agree with this--they seem to have little understanding of democratic principles lately.

[Mary in KC]

12. Do you think?

[Hissyspit]

13. "Lately?..."

Nothing new about that, it's just worse than ever.

[Dr Ron]

16. True, not just lately

If we look at the long run, there have even been periods when it has been around as bad as now, such as Nixon and McCarthyism.

[thecai]

14. IMO

It's misappropriation of taxes or funds, should be illegal, and is totally unfair.
But they think they're above the law, so they'll do whatever the fork they want.

[nonconformist]

15. You could point out that it's blatant propaganda

You could also point out that Bush is the least accessible president in modern times. Why is that? What is he hiding? What is he afraid of?

As for the legality argument, remind them that everything Hitler did was legal too.