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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:26 PM
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At yesterday's HASC meeting,Gen. Clark smacksdown Richard Perle & GOP
As chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, Perle had gone before the same committee in 2002 and smugly portrayed retired Army Gen. Wesley K. Clark, who urged caution in Iraq, as "hopelessly confused" and spouting "fuzzy stuff" and "dumb cliches."

Thirty months and one war later, Perle and Clark returned to the committee yesterday. But this time lawmakers on both sides hectored Perle, while Clark didn't bother to suppress an "I told you so."
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Sometimes life imitates art. Yesterday, it imitated an episode of "Crossfire." For more than three hours, Clark and Perle reprised their confrontation before the committee in September 2002. The two men entered in twin gray suits and red ties, and took adjacent chairs at the witness table. Clark scribbled in pencil, Perle with a fountain pen. Only Perle's reading material -- he put on the witness table a copy of "Kitchen Confidential: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly" -- suggested he was not expecting what was to come.
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It was not always thus. At the September 2002 hearing, GOP lawmakers joined in Perle's dismissal of Clark's argument that "time is on our side" in Iraq and that force should be used only as a "last resort."
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In retrospect, Clark's forecasts proved more accurate than Perle's, and even Republicans on the committee made little effort yesterday to defend Perle or to undermine Clark. The exception was Chairman Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.), who pressed Clark to acknowledge that the Iraq invasion should get some credit for signs of democracy in the region.

"We've got to do a lot less crowing about the sunrise," Clark rejoined.

When Hunter's GOP colleagues didn't join his line of questioning, he took another turn grilling Clark. The chairman likened President Bush's Middle East policies to those of President Ronald Reagan in Eastern Europe.

"Reagan never invaded Eastern Europe," Clark retorted.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32440-2005Apr6.html




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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:29 PM
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1. I'm warming up to Gen. Clark
If he runs in '08 he may be worth a look.
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:47 PM
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6. Hey WI_DEM
Have you viewed any of the videos over at www.u-wes-a.com? Some good stuff there....
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:33 PM
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2. Odd...
C-Span doesn't have that testimony available. Or maybe I'm overlooking a link.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:37 PM
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3. You can listen to the hearings here.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 12:42 PM by ClarkUSA
Listen to the beginning chit chat for some things of interest.
http://hasc3.house.gov/04-06-05FullComm.asf

Also, Clark speaks very clearly about the PNAC plan at the beginning of his prepared statement and throughout his testimony.

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:42 PM
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4. Montauk6... it's long,
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:46 PM
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5. Arrogant Perle - damn turd that will not flush
is no match with Clark. Perle always believes he is just so-o-o-o smart.

When Perle speaks of "double agents" I want to ask if that might not be

P-R-O-J-E-C-T-I-O-N ?

Thanks for posting this - a Clark fan.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:51 PM
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7. I think this is a dupe
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74dodgedart Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:51 PM
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8. Clark should have been the VP candidate..
shoulda, coulda, woulda...
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:34 PM
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9. With all due respect...
there are those of us who feel he should have been the nominee.

That having been said, yeah, VP would have been at least a place to for him to have made a difference.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda + $3.75 will get you a small Starbucks latte.

TC
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Dread Pirate KR Read Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:13 PM
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10. Please "blog" over to WaPo,
and maybe we can help keep the real news "alive"?... or at least temper against the neocons who will

Same Committee, Same Combatants, Different Tune
By Dana Milbank
Washington Post
April 7, 2005; Page A10

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32440-2005Apr6.htm

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:50 PM
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11. What a great comeback! That man really thinks on his feet.
"We've got to do a lot less crowing about the sunrise," Clark rejoined."
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:27 PM
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12. This is an EXCELLENT listen!
I started listening to this last night and ended up staying up most of the night because it's so good. It's long - about 3 or 3.5 hrs but VERY compelling.

Thanks for posting the link to the audio stream.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:28 AM
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14. Hi housewolf
:hi: Nice to see you outside of the Keith threads.

And in a Clark thread, too! My other "love." :loveya:

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:13 AM
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13. "Reagan never invaded Eastern Europe," Clark retorted. ...it's a knockout!
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