Same Committee, Same Combatants, Different Tune

[trillian]

Same Committee, Same Combatants, Different Tune

By Dana Milbank

Thursday, April 7, 2005; Page A10

Rep. Walter B. Jones Jr. is a conservative Republican from North Carolina who voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq. So it jarred all the more yesterday when Jones turned his fury on Richard N. Perle, the Pentagon adviser who provided the Bush administration with brainpower for the Iraq war.

Jones, who said he has signed more than 900 condolence letters to kin of fallen soldiers, pronounced himself "incensed" with Perle. "It is just amazing to me how we as a Congress were told we had to remove this man . . . but the reason we were given was not accurate," Jones told Perle at a House Armed Services Committee hearing. Jones said the administration should "apologize for the misinformation that was given. To me there should be somebody who is large enough to say 'We've made a mistake.' I've not heard that yet."

As chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, Perle had gone before the same committee in 2002 and smugly portrayed retired Army Gen. Wesley K. Clark, who urged caution in Iraq, as "hopelessly confused" and spouting "fuzzy stuff" and "dumb cliches."

Thirty months and one war later, Perle and Clark returned to the committee yesterday. But this time lawmakers on both sides hectored Perle, while Clark didn't bother to suppress an "I told you so."

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32440-2005Apr6.html?referrer=emailarticlepg

[Totally Committed]

1. Wes was magnificent!

Thanks for posting this, trillian!

Also:

Posted at U4C:

Great article with Gen Clark's comments on admin's strategy regarding
Syria, etc.

(snip of final comments)

...Clark told lawmakers he also was concerned the administration's
rhetoric would lead to the collapse of Syria's regime, saying
Washington is unprepared to handle that possibility.

..."We're going to destabilize at a greater rate than we can
stabilize," he said. "I think this committee should be holding
hearings right now on what the United States should do if Syria
collapses, because that's clearly the policy."

http://digbig.com/4dcge

TC

[trillian]

2. I listened to it live

Pay back is so sweet!


:kick:

[pkspiegel]

12. When will it be on again?

This I have got to see! Will CSPAN run the whole thing maybe????:bounce:

[ICantBelieve]

3. It's great to see the truth getting some press! n/t

[capi888]

4. Ironic isn't it??? Listened to the entire testimony.....

Perle "Kitchen Confidential" a book for Chef's! Looked like he was confident they weren't going to be to hard on him! Surprize...the truth does win out eventually!!! Wes Clark is brilliant! quote "I will let the record speak for itself"!!!! Wes Clark for President!

P.S. Perle, maybe studying for a new career: "Kitchen Confidential" Adventures in the Culinary UNDERBELLY"!!! Seems Apropos!

[Totally Committed]

7. Finally....

a way to get the papers to print the words "Richard Perle" and "underbelly" in the same sentence. They always had a direct relation in my mind... LOL!

TC

[capi888]

9. Right TC...love this quote....TOO!

"Eat the Elephant, one bite at a time"! Apropos again!!!!
Think it should be on a button..???? The quotes this man comes up with is enlightening!

[Clark2008]

13. My favorite was this one

We've got to do a lot less crowing about the sunrise.

However, I would like to point out, so the mods don't have to, that you should, for copywright purposes, cut all but four paragraphs of this story and then post the link.

I realize that it's subscription, but people can always log on with bugmenot.

[trillian]

16. Thanks for the tip

I tried to go back and edit out the last four paragraphs but the message I got was that it was too late.

Will keep in mind for the next time.


:loveya:

[cyn2]

5. Wes Does it again

It's reassuring that Wes' words are being written up in the paper. I hope this kind of coverage continues.

Now, if only the TV people would get to some substance!

[CarolNYC]

6. Great article!

That is a great article. Some fireworks at that hearing yesterday, huh? :)

Wes was magnificent, brilliant and every other superlative you can think of...and I don't really care if that makes me sound like a groupie or whatever they characterize us enlightened ones as here. ;)

[grumpy old fart]

8. By the way, Kitchen Confidential is a great book.....

but decidedly fluff reading for a wannabe master of the universe...I guess Perle really thought this would be a walk in the park.

[capi888]

10. right Grumpy....

Hummm, maybe that is why, Clark said,"Eat the Elephant one bite at a time"!!! hahaha...love it...clever is he?????

[CarolNYC]

11. Nice blog ont he hearing here...

http://gorillaintheroom.blogspot.com/

[ksclematis]

14. "Same Committee, Same Combatants, Different Tune"

Dana Milbank, author of this WP article was the mocerator of the c-span TV Book review with Ms. Ogata a couple of weeks ago, and I think she has written about the General previously. She did good on this one....Super article!!!

Great Perle (& Adm.) "smackdown"....'bout time!

Wes Clark #1 in 2004 and 2008
No second choice!

[ksclematis]

15. OOOOPPPPPS!

I misquoted author of article.....it was Dana Priest as moderator of TV book review....WP article still super. WAY TO GO WES!!!!

[myrna minx]

17. Welcome to DU, ksclematis.

:hi: Wes Clark is a class act.

[Totally Committed]

18. Ditto.

Welcome.

TC

[bvar22]

19. Why does...

Why does our government, our Media, and the general population of the US continue to accept incompet leadership as a valid excuse for the disaster in Iraq?

Saying that they were duped is an admission of incompetence!

[haypops]

20. Perhaps because the truth is even uglier!

quote

Saying that they were duped is an admission of incompetence

[housewolf]

21. Go here for a link to the audio stream

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1710606&mesg_id=1710627


It's about 3 - 3.5 hrs but an EXCELLENT listen.