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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 02:31 AM
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"He's Using Religion"
"He's Using Religion"
7 April 2005

Today’s Boston Globe has a piece on the political currency of embracing the Pope. Among those interviewed for the article was the Rev. Robert Drinan, former Democratic member of Congress from Massachusetts, a Jesuit priest, and a professor at Georgetown Law School. Drinan, offered a relatively outspoken view of Bush’s religious faith…

"He doesn't know much about Christianity, George Bush, with all due respect. He's using religion," said Drinan. Bush's opposition to gun control and support for the death penalty "are things that just offend against Christianity."

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=678
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Kyregan Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 02:37 AM
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1. Really, if you think about it,...
almost all the "true" Christians offend the views of Christianity. For example; isn't it that more christians support the death penalty than any other religion, yet they protest abortion because it's murder? They spend more time preaching what they believe is right to actually take the time to see what their bible says.

I think all of the religious candidates use their "religion" to get ahead. I'd sure be surprised if Kerry was a full-out catholic. (Power to him if he is.) Religion, in politics, is just a tool to win over the nuts who like to condemn everyone else and I don't see that changing any time in the foreseeable future.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 02:44 AM
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2. True...
Very true...

I ascribe to A Course In Miracles myself when it comes to Christianity. No guilt and sin!
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:00 AM
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3. I wonder if the pseudoChristians have confused the "Left Behind" series
with the Bible and based their theology on the writings of Tim LaHaye rather than the apostles?

(confession: I've never read any of his books, but I did read the bible many years ago...)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:12 AM
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4. One of my old pastors was afraid of that
that people would take the Left Behind series and think it was gospel.

Some of the hardest people to reason with are those Christians who were once users of some sort: drug and/or alcohol users who needed Christianity to stop.

The problem is they treat their faith as if it were a lifepreserver that no one is allowed to question in any way, even when they've gotten the wrong idea about something. I once had a born-again Catholic (something I hadn't thought possible, btw) tell me that infantcide and abortion were the same. Something in the Bible about throwing children into a volcano I think. She said they were committing abortion and no amount of correction from me or suggestions that she couldn't just make up her own meanings for words was going to get through to her. She said they were both murder so they were both the same.

So somehow I don't doubt that Bush is this kind of Christian. He reminds me of some of these folks. They're confused, but militantly so.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:53 AM
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5. Definately scarey people! N/T
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:13 PM
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6. To be fooled is to be ruled....brainwashed, etc, the poor people
are confused to the point of accepting something they think is good, but in reality, its not.

They have lost the art of bilateralism/polylateralism and instead
embrace unilateralism.....

Its the Greed of ME and MEism.

Come, we go eat. drink, sing, smile, laugh.....
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:29 PM
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7. "He doesn't know much about Christianity, George Bush .."
The Rev. Drinan has cut through all the Bu$hit and exposed Bu$h for what he is: An insincere hypocrite. Bu$h talks-the-talk, but he never walks-the-walk. The decades-old words of Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel are particularly apropos of Bu$h: To be arrogant toward man is to be blasphemous toward God.



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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:30 PM
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8. Link to Boston Globe article
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/04/07/a_political_currency_in_embracing_of_pope/

The above quote in the OP is near the end.

I find it interesting that even when liberal Christians speak up, their point of view is relegated to the bottom of the page. Also, the statement by itself doesn't really say much.

Liberal Christians ARE speaking out: But, when are we going to start holding the MEDIA accoutable for what they report?
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