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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:48 AM
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Where is Jimmy Carter?
Why are the 3 stooges excluding him? First he was overlooked during the tsunami and now the pope's death.

For some reason I think he is being excluded versus deciding not to participate, considering the great humanitarian that he is. I just can't figure it out.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:50 AM
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1. He called bush out for what he really is
and bush is having a temper tantrum.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:53 AM
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2. he may not be up to going
he`s getting old and maybe he just isn`t up to the travel..plus the company he would have to keep must repulse him.
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 05:55 AM
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15. He asked to go and was denied a spot in favor of Andrew Card
Condi Rice also got to go. Carter asked to go and was denied a chance to go. That is disgusting consdering he was the only US President to welcome the Pope to the White House.
The vindictive bush family is trying to erase him from history because he shows them up as the classless pigs they are.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 02:51 PM
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24. I'm also a bit concerned about his health
I believe it was just last week that he and Mrs. Carter resigned from the board of the Carter Center. I'm wondering if he's starting to slow down in his "elevated" age - not that your early 80s are anything to sneeze at.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:54 AM
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3. Carter
Did denounce the Southern Baptist Convention.
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/baptist_Carter.html

Now, he ain't looking so "Evangelcial" anymore thus Bush has to separate himself from Carter.

Carter is a good ole boy.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:57 AM
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4. I believe the news yesterday was...
... that Carter had followed protocol, and called the White House. He asked if any other former presidents had asked to attend the Pope's funeral, and the White House told him, no, none had. At that point, he said that perhaps he should not then go, either (this despite the fact that he was the only president to receive the pope at the White House as a head of state).

So, shortly after Carter called and decided it wouldn't be proper for him to intrude on a state funeral, Clinton said he'd like to go, as did Bush's father. No one at the White House called Carter back to inform him of the change, and Rice was added to the list.

So, pretty much, yes, he was snubbed.

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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:00 AM
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5. I'm sure
if Carter wanted to attend that he could
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:10 AM
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9. Just read an article
Carter wanted to attend, but each nation could only have a delegation of five. Oh well, after you count the father, the asski@#-oops Clinton, the wife, and the mistress, there just wasn't room for poor Jimmy.

I think it is disgraceful and someone need to call Clinton out on it, since he is best buds with the bushes.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:14 AM
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14. That's really weak.
Certainly something couldve or shouldve been arranged.
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 05:59 AM
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17. They took Andrew Card too. That makes six
I am also sure there is one more member of the group they are trying to keep away from pictures. But every time I see him on camera it happens too quick to figure out who he is. He just looks like generic grey suite guy. Some one with better eyes than I have needs to take a look.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:41 AM
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22. Yes, there is a SEVENTH member of the delegation. There is a thread
trying to figure out who the heck he is.


APPALLING that Carter didn't go.
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 05:57 AM
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16. NO, they said that the delegation was going to be small
They told him other people wanted to go. He was too gracious to argue the point.

Bush Inc are a gang of low class skanks.
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qwghlmian Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:05 AM
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6. There has been a long standing tradition that
former presidents do not ever criticize the sitting one. Jimmy Carter broke this tradition on numerous occasions. The snub is apparently the payback. Yes, it's petty, but that's how politics works.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:08 AM
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8. yeah, but it's not because of breaking some tradition
as Carter had been critical of Clinton also. and Clinton was critical of the Chimp also.

it's because Carter refuses to kiss the Chimp's ugly putrid disgusting ass.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:15 AM
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11. well, that and
Bush can't 'handle the truth'. He can't even be in the same zip code with it!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 06:34 AM
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21. and an ever longer-standing tradition of the exact opposite
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:06 AM
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7. very sad and very disgusting, the Chimp kept him out for political reasons
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:11 AM
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10. Read my silly satire..
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:21 AM
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12. Nope, All wrong...
...They said on NPR that, they gave Bush a 5 person limit for his entourage. Carter was originally going, but when he heard they only had 5 spots, he bowed out so that * could bring someone else.

Like an adviser to tell him what to say, so he brought his girlfriend Condi.:smoke:
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 06:01 AM
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18. There are six and maybe seven people in the delegation
Andrew Card is with them and one more unidentified guy in a grey suite.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 02:15 PM
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23. Maybe "with" him, but...
...I think he only got 5 seats in the front. Senator Kerry and one other from Massachusetts (maybe Sen. Kennedy) are going too, but not with *.
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:36 AM
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13. Did Carter go to the funeral
just not with Bush?
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 06:02 AM
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19. I don't think he did go at all
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 06:28 AM
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20. I think it has to do with his speech at the Democratic convention
Chimp's feeling were hurt :rofl:
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