Mr. DeFazio on the extraordinary and reckless President Bush

[MSgt213]

Mr. DeFAZIO. Mr. Speaker, well, the President was on the road again today with yet another tightly controlled scripted, so-called town hall, before a carefully screened, invitation audience to tout to his plan to privatize Social Security.

Now, that is not unusual; in fact, the scripted town halls are all so similar that they can save the taxpayers a lot of money if he just stayed at Camp David or Crawford, Texas, and they just replayed the recordings of his earlier scripted, rehearsed town halls.

But the President did say today something extraordinary, in Parkersburg, West Virginia, and suggested something unconscionable. The President said, ``There is no trust fund.'' And then he went on to suggest that our Nation might not honor its debt to Social Security. This is what the President said does not exist.

Let me read from this. This is a Social Security Trust Fund bond, considered the best investments in the world, U.S. Treasury Bond. This is the most privileged of Treasury bonds issued to Social Security, redeemable at any time at full face value, unlike any other bond that they issue. These are the most privileged of their bonds. The President says it is nothing but an IOU. Well, here is what it says: This bond is incontestable in the hands of the Federal Old Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund. The bond is supported by the full faith and credit of the United States. And the United States is pledged to the payment of the bond with respect to both principal and interest.

The President questions that? He is questioning whether we are going to repay our most privileged debt to Social Security. We have $7.9 trillion of debt. He is adding to it at a record rate, borrowing $1.3 million a minute. Who is he saying we are going to repay and not repay?

Are we going to repay the Chinese but not the Social Security Trust Fund? Are we going to repay President Bush, he happens to have some U.S. Treasury Bonds in his personal portfolio, but not the Social Security Trust Fund? Are we going to repay other wealthy investors around the world and in the U.S., but not the Social Security Trust Fund? We are going to selectively default on our debt.

Suggesting something like that, if the bond markets believed the President, the dollar would drop to near zero tomorrow, and there would be an economic catastrophe, but they do not believe him. They know this is just politics and rhetoric on his part. There is no intention of the Government of the United States defaulting on its debt.

This year Social Security will collect $170 billion more than it needs to pay Social Security benefits, and they are invested in the trust fund. If what the President said is true, there is no trust fund, and we are not going to honor it, then Congress and the President are perpetrating a fraud of extraordinary magnitude on the working people of America, extorting through taxes $170 billion more than they need to pay current benefits that this President has no intention of repaying. That is unbelievable.

Every minute, every minute, this President and this Congress are borrowing $320,000 of Social Security taxes and spending it on something else. And the President says he is replacing it with worthless IOUs; they are not bonds, they are not investments. He questions whether they will be repaid. He questions the full faith and credit of the Government of the United States of America and its willingness, our willingness, to meet our obligations and our debt.

If what the President says is true, then we ought to give the working people of America, instead of the rich people of America, the biggest tax cut in history. Reduce the Social Security tax, which falls more heavily on working people. More working Americans pay more in Social Security taxes than they do income taxes to the Federal Government.

If he has no intention of repaying that $170 billion that he is borrowing this year of excess Social Security taxes, then we should not collect it under false pretenses. We should give people a big tax break. That would stimulate small business, employment, and put a lot of money in the pockets of working people. I am not advocating that.

But if he does not repay it, he should be advocating it, and instead of trying to switch the game and having an irrelevant debate over a so-called privatization plan which actually makes the funding problems of Social Security worse and would require another few trillion dollars of borrowing, in which I guess people would get these worthless bonds that the President questions.

Now, who is going to buy those worthless bonds? How is he going to continue to run the Government of the United States borrowing $1.3 million a minute if the bonds of this country are worthless?

This is an extraordinary and reckless statement for the elected President of the United States to make.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2005_record&page=H1755&position=all

[Atman]

1. Well, here's your problem right here...

"This is an extraordinary and reckless statement for the elected President of the United States to make."

[Old and In the Way]

2. So what is he....a liar or a treasonous bastard whose policies are

destroying the country?

I choose both.

[whistle]

3. Yes, I saw Mr DeFasio giving that speech on C-Span I think it was

...and I agree totally. The original use of the trust fund surplus was to pay down the national debt, but Bush is advocating stealing the bonds from older working Americans and saying to younger Americans that that would be ok.

[A Simple Game]

4. Perhaps * should be asked to clarify what he meant? n/t

[mikehiggins]

6. Do you really think he knows what he means?

There is not truth in these people whatsoever. They say whatever they think will win the moment, regardless of the consequences.

If anyone beleived this moron for a moment on this subject the economy of the United States would collapse by morning.

He should be impeached.

[A Simple Game]

7. I doubt that he know what he was saying,

I also doubt that he realizes the consequences of what he said.

I also doubt the majority of American people realize the consequences of what he said.

If he were to be pushed for an explanation, people may see just that Social Security is not in the bad shape he says it is, or that his plans would make it as bad as he says it is.

From my point of view, forcing an explanation from him can in no way make him look good.

[kentuck]

8. Uh-huh.....

Yes. He should step forward and clarify his comments....now.....before we pay another penny into his slush fund.

[Robbien]

5. Are we going to repay the Chinese but not the Social Security Trust Fund?

This is a great speech with so many good quotes to use in fighting privatiztion of our security trust.

[stevedeshazer]

9. Kicked, nominated

DeFazio is great. I hope he runs for the Senate against Gordon "Pea Packer" Smith, because I think he has a great chance in Oregon.

Won't be until 2008, though. :(