Is Bush the most dishonest and deceitful politician of your lifetime?

[kentuck]

Or is it in the eye of the beholder? After all, many of his supporters think he is an honest and Christian man. Why do you see him differently from his supporters? What makes him dishonest and deceitful?

[democrat in Tallahassee]

1. I certainly hope no one is more dishonest; it would be hard to

imagine. Actually today I was feeling nostaligic for Nixon. What does that tell you?

[Cha]

2. Anybody's lifetime..not just

mine. Check back in history for a bigger scum than the bushboy..I'll bet there isn't one.

[Midnight Rambler]

3. I'm thinking DeLay myself

Thing is, DeLay doesn't have quite as much power, and is probably easier to get rid of, so maybe Chimpy is the worst.

[Erika]

4. Bush is as Xtian as Genghis Khan

With the political acumen of Nero.

Pre-emptive strikes defy the Golden Rule. He's slashing every budget to the needy and veterans. He's insisting on tax cuts to the rich, again. He claims to be a Christian but his policies don't follow Christianity.

[CBHagman]

5. Still to be determined, but he's easily most worthless.

Think about it. Here's someone who would never have been president if he hadn't been born into a powerful family. He was incompetent in business and allowed his irresponsible youth to stretch into his 40s.

He has everything God and the devil can grant -- healthy children, a wife who doesn't rock the boat, money, power, security, lots of sycophants surrounding him -- and yet he appears to need to cling to grudges, vindictiveness, a need to denigrate others.

He allows and even encourages others to make every sacrifice, even to offering up their lives, and yet he has never risked so much as a whisker.

In fact, he ran against three perfectly honorable Vietnam veterans -- the courageous POW John McCain, decorated combat veteran Kerry, and the Boy Scout-like Gore -- and worked to destroy the reputations of all three, with the McCain episode standing out for its sheer ugliness and gratuitousness.

He lives in one of the most fascinating cities in the world, among thousands of people of various backgrounds, ages, religions, and races, and yet, aside from T-ball and perhaps church, he has nothing to do with the community. I've never heard of him enjoying a DC museum or theater performance, or appreciating the natural beauty of Virginia or Maryland.

He's probably one of the phoniest people I've ever seen, and that's saying a lot.

Without question, though, he is absolutely the worst president of my lifetime, which also is saying a lot.

[priller]

13. Great post, CB

Really well put.

The thing about Bush is, he's very skilled at being deceitful; he knows exactly what he's doing. He had 70% of the country believing Saddam was behind 9-11, but without ever saying it explicity. That's quite an achievement in deception.

He's trying to do the same with SS, but fortunately there are facts on our side this time and few are buying his bullshit. With Saddam, no one could say for sure what he had, so the con job worked.

[kliljedahl]

31. Don't forget what they did to Max Cleland

* was involved in that too. I'm 55 years old and I've never seen a more despicable, disingenuous,M*(F^&ing A*&le I've ever seen, president or not.Don't get me started or I'll tell you how I really feel.




http://www.kliljedahl.net

[MODemocrat]

42. Hagman, what a good post

Those are the kind of posts I'd like to be savvy enough to contribute.
Thanks so much.~~~~:toast: :thumbsup:~~~~

[jmcon007]

6. That's easy. It starts with his "faith".....

While gov of Texas he said Jesus was the only way to Heaven...when starting his run for President he huddled with Abe Foxman (director of Jewish Anti-defamation League) and was told to get this organization's support, he would have to change that "Jesus is the only way" mantra. He did. (texemarr.com)
Now he says that Jesus IS NOT the only way. If a man can so easily turn his back on his faith for 30 pieces of silver, we can't trust him with anything.
Most Christians don't know the above. Bush is evil.

[beanball]

14. Bush the fake Christian

If he said that there is another way to get to heaven,other than Christ,he is a lier of the first order and can't be trusted.

[Robbien]

7. No.

But because Bush is an arrogant bumbler, he is pushing his agenda out in the open. The others had more finesse and kept most of the evil hidden.

9/11 didn't happen just because of what Bush did. Our foreign policy is a stinker.

[Sparkly]

8. His whole biography is secretive and phony

That closet of "youthful indiscretions" holds 40 years of this idiot's life!! All the truth it holds about his character, his intellect, his spine, his work ethic, etc. are hidden away and covered up with lies.

From his student career to his military non-career to his business failures to his Harken dealings to his Texas backers, he's a fraud. He's a figurehead, a puppet for a neo-con cabal that's deceiving people and leading them, lemminglike, right over the cliff.

I've never seen a government like this, a media like this, or a brain-washed, ignorant, superstitious electorate like this. Never thought I'd see the day my country got THIS bad. It's truly frightening.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

9. I have never seen a group of politicians

that is this craven, and that is over 5 decades.

[Protagoras]

10. He's the highest placed but I'd say he is tied for dishonesty

and corruption with a number of his cronies like Delay and Cheney.

[Digit]

11. Women's Intuition told me so from the beginning..

As I have posted before, I intuitively knew there was a dark shadow in the form of * before 2000. That was the first time I became really active in politics. Small wonder in retrospect. I had no idea the damage he could do to our country so quickly.

Let other Republicans know...these people are NOT Republicans. They are NeoCons. They are the enemy of Dems and Repubublicans both.

[Generic Guy]

12. NO,

Clintoon is.




APRIL FOOLS. :)

Actually it sounds like Tom Delay is giving bush a run for his money when it comes to corruption.

[Pool Hall Ace]

28. Heehee -- would that be Bill or Hitlery Klintoon ?

:rofl:

:hi:

[Generic Guy]

33. Since I am a generous guy,

you get to pick. :rofl:

[Gemini Cat]

15. Yep. One of the most deceitful and dishonest

scum buckets in my lifetime. Much worse than Nixon or Reagan and that's saying something.

[leftofthedial]

16. I'm not aware of a more dishonest politician

in the history of the world.

Even his worthless father had an occasional brush with the truth

[chieftain]

17. Beyond any doubt , these guys are the least honest people

who have ever occupied these offices .

[Disturbed]

18. No doubt about it. The most vile and dishonest..

ever in my lifetime. What blows my mind though are the millions that don't realize that &/or don't care.

[abluelady]

37. Agreed

Why don't more Americans see what a dishonest, idiot this man is? Being an American today is soooo scary.

He lies and lies and lies and nothing is being done. Can we start another revolution?

[Spirochete]

19. Don't know about among all politicians,

but he has to be the most dishonest and deceitful president of my lifetime, hands down.

[snippy]

20. Without a doubt.

Except for the American media the entire world knows that Bush is one of the most compulsive and incessant liar in the history of American politics.

There is no subject so somber, serious, or shallow that Bush will not lie about it. The only other option is not to lie. And that apparently is something Bush can not do.

For example:

Bush says he fell off his bicycle because of the heavy rains and he watched on television on the morning of 9/11 as the first plane hit the first WTC tower and John McCain has an illegitimate Negro daughter and Bush would veto McCain-Feingold and the yawning boy was not there and was not yawning and besides he was standing some place else and Richard Clarke had complete access to Bush and Rice which proves that Clarke was out of the loop which is Clinton's fault but the White House revealed that Clarke briefed the press on background about Bush fighting terrorism which means that unnamed White House sources may not be identified even when Bush wants to and everyone except Bush himself knows where he was during his National Guard service but it was Clinton's fault that Bush did not show up for duty which was after Bush volunteered to go to Viet Nam but before he was no longer required to take a flight physical and about the same time that God ordered him to smite Saddam because the 70 lines of embryonic stem cells and more arsenic in the water and more mercury in the air and the completely safe air in New York City folowing 9/11 prove that republican science is better than sound science and the Bush administration did not illegally conspire to illegally reveal the identity of a covert CIA operative which resulted in 2 million new jobs being created because democrats support terrorism and are not good Americans just as the Jews were not good Germans which is why Bush said he would veto the creation of both the Department of Homeland Security and the 9/11 Commission but now claims credit for their creation and the White House cooperated with the 9/11 Commission which is why the White House withheld documents and called the republicans on the Commission before Clarke testified and why the White House did not coordinate the attacks on the integrity and bipartisanship of the Commission and why Bush and Cheney negotiated with the Commission that the two of them would testfy one time only but never again since the dental xrays prove that Bush spoke with the CIA director everyday and did not ignore either the repeated warnings of the dangers of al Qaeda and Osama or the August 2001 intelligence briefing specifically warning of the upcoming 9/11 attacks because the United States is a nation with a mission and that mission is to bring freedom to every single person in the world which will cut the deficit in half if you do not count those parts of the deficit which will increase under Bush which is Clinton's fault but the boxes from China were labeled "Made in USA" which resulted in 2.6 million new jobs being created even though the $400 billion Medicare prescription drug decorative turkey was not labeled $550 billion and was passed without bribery or criminal deception and was not criminally promoted by the Bush administration using taxpayers' money for propaganda purposes which proves that government spending under Bush has gone down if you do not count the increased government spending under Bush which is Clinton's fault just as acts of terrorism have decreased since 9/11 if you do not count the increase in the number of acts of terrorism and Bush's plane to Baghdad was spotted because before Saddam bought the uranium and became an "urgent" but not an imminent threat which is Clinton's fault Bush had no plans on his desk to invade Iraq since the invasion was not planned before Bush took office even though it was the subject of his first national security council meeting in February 2001 and in December 2001 when plans for the invasion were being finalized Bush said he was focused on the military operations in Afghanistan and then the Carrier Costume Party was too far offshore for the Navy to make a large enough "Mission Accomplished" banner to describe the WMD we have found in Iraq some of which Saddam was giving to Osama for following Saddam's plans and using Iraqi hijackers on 9/11 which is Clinton's fault but everyone who pays income taxes got a tax cut which created 3 million new jobs and allowed Iraqi oil revenue to pay for the cost of the reconstruction of Iraq after the invasion by a small number of troops who would be greeted with floral program related activities except for the dead and wounded troops who are being brought home secretly which is Clinton's fault since Bush is the one who hugs the mothers and the widows and the wives and the kids and since Bush does not watch television news he did not know about the republican torture pranks occurring in Iraq until he saw the pictures while watching television news and that is why Bush who will use the jawbone of an ass to force OPEC to open the spigots and who is responsible for good economic numbers but not bad economic numbers which are Clinton's fault wrote the poem that he did not write blaming Laura for dropping the dog.

Ridiculing Bush for his compulsive and incessant lying needs to become common.

FIRE THE LIAR

[DrDebug]

21. No, Dick Cheney has the #1 position

* is #2. He doesn't have the brainpower to take the lead.

[kodi]

22. Never has one so low risen so high.

George W. Bush plays his supporters like suckers.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

23. Most diabolically harmful to the working class’s quality of life & future

[El Fuego]

24. Yes, and certainly the most dangerous because

he has so many people fooled.

[leyton]

25. No, probably not.

He'd be naer the top of my list for American politicians, but I'd put Newt Gingrich, Tom DeLay, Zell Miller and others before him. And I'm sure that there are slimier politicians in other countries, particularly in the USSR and China.

[Tom Rinaldo]

26. Don't forget Spiro Agnew. He's a footnote now but he almost was Pres

What were the odds of Agnew getting convicted and forced out of office a year before Nixon? Very close call. Bush rates so high because he is President. Delay is actually a lower life form in my opinion.

[Toots]

27. Remember though he "Trusts the People"

That was his campaign slogan in the 2000 election. Before the votes had been tabulated he said and I quote "Only machines can be trusted as they are objective, people are subjective" That was his way of telling his people that judges could not be trusted (election judges that is) I have yet to catch them in a truth.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

29. I think scores of pols. would have been equally dishonest, murderous

IF THE FREAKIN' MEDIA LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.

The complicitous corporate media really needs to be held accountable. There are only a few pols., I believe, who could resist the seemingly self-imposed myopia of today's millionaire press.

[napi21]

30. I don't think Shrub is, but

I think, collectively, all of his admin personnel make the most dishonest and deceiptful admin that I've ever witnessed.

I actually think Nixon & Reagan were also in the dishonest/deceiptful catagory, but they had a few people in their admin who had a concience.

Since you posted this question, I've been trying to think of at least ONE person in the Shrub admin who I would consider...misguided, but reasonably fair and honest. I can't even come up with ONE! Shrub has fired all the ones who even tried to keep things honest.

I think that's why all of us view Shrub as being the worst. It's not only him, it's that he's completely surrounded himself with dishonest crooks who thrive on secrecy, and protecting each others backsides!

[flyarm]

32. have lived through 11 presidents...

and i never remember fearing any of them..but i do fear * ..horribly!!

didn't like reagan ..but didnt fear him...distrusted nixon ..but didnt fear him...

i fear for my nation under this scum bag!!

fly

[libodem]

34. YES...Compare him to Jimmy Carter...

think of the difference between someone someone such as, he and that phony creep, Bush. "Blessed be the peacemaker" Now that's a real Christian. Someone thoughtful, kind, gentle, loving. Not an a-hole who speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Walk the walk, baby.

[LeftishBrit]

35. If you mean 'politician in a high position in a democracy', probably yes

Even worse than Blair or Thatcher.

But there have been worse and more dishonest people, e.g. Pol Pot,
Ceausescu, Pinochet, the Marcoses, etc., etc. I don't think any of them was in a strictly democratic country, however.

[sakabatou]

36. Ther eis no one politician

I'd say the whole government has been decietful. Congress, Executive Branch and the Juducial Branch, at one point or another in the last 8 to 9 years.

[Joey Liberal]

38. Bush is by FAR the most dishonest and the DUMBEST

No other President in the history of this country has been as corrupt, dangerous, and dumb as pResident Bunnypants Bush.

[veracity]

39. Don't pick him out of the bunch of liars. Powell was worse!

Powell had the trust and respect of the global community...and certainly people in the US were ready to believe what he said to the UN. Those of us who had the facts KNEW he was lying...the information about the nuclear ability was out there (even from Powell himself). But the majority of uninformed Americans were getting their news from TV land...
and saw Powell with his vials and photos - tell them that there was NO DOUBT that Saddam was about to annihiilate us. He is far worse than Bush, who is being managed by PNAC and the religious right. Far worse.

In case you don't remember, here's an analysis of the two speeches at the UN:

http://tvnewslies.org/html/powell_lies_to_un.html

[90-percent]

40. Bush

Bush has wrecked the USA and the entire World a hell of a lot worse than any other President in history.

The other scumbags like Newt wrecked a lot of American stuff, but they weren't in a position to wreck the world to the Biblical Proportions * has!

-85%

History is gonna put this guy on the same page as Joe Stalin and Hitler.

[MODemocrat]

41. Yes, Bush is the most dishonest & deceitful politican in my lifetime

:freak: :crazy: I'm 72 years old, have never missed voting in a presidential election; have been politically involved in my working career as well as personal life; Never can I remember any other president getting away with all the mis-deeds Bush has. He just plows right through, destroying our credibility and honor, and no one seems to be able to stop him.

He is more than dishonest and deceitful; he is arrogant and cold-hearted, and completely out of touch with reality. IMHO he is the worst president ever.

[jen4clark]

43. Yes

I agree with many that he is not alone in being the most dishonest and deceitful but the fact that he is such a perfect frontman and is such a willing puppet puts him at #1 in my opinion as the absolute worst.

[Oeditpus Rex]

44. I don't believe W is willfully deceitful

I honestly believe he just doesn't know the difference — that he has a distorted sense of right and wrong, i.e. that "right" is whatever benefits him and/or those in the inner circle. When he said "Who cares what you think?" to that citizen, he put his entire attitude in a nutshell.

He is, however, the most ethically deficient president I know of — which, after Nixon, says quite a lot. The difference is, where Nixon lusted for power, W assumes entitlement to it. Nixon was known to occasionally ask, "Is it good for the American people?" I doubt W has ever considered that for a second, since his role is not as POTUS but as POTGOP.

The reason he's president — that is, the reason he was even considered for nomination — is that the PNAC needed a manipulable figurehead without ethics, much in the same way an organized crime syndicate needs a hit man with no moral reservations about killing. Such sociopathic irrationality makes each more dangerous.

[EndElectoral]

45. Nixon was the most deceitful...Bush is the most dangerous....