Since when are Hagel & Lugar moderates?

[NewJeffCT]

This Yahoo article says they are moderates. While they may not be radical neo-cons, both are quite conservative if I am not mistaken.

Disarmament groups such as the Friends Committee on National Legislation and Citizens for Global Solutions have tried to persuade moderate Republicans, such as Chafee, Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard G. Lugar of Indiana and Sen. Chuck Hagel (news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska, to vote against Bolton.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20050331/ts_latimes/democratssettorejectpickforun

[AndyTiedye]

1. At This Point, Anything That Isn't a Fire-Breathing Fundie is Moderate

[Wapsie B]

3. You got it.

Anything to the left of the John Birch Society is moderate territory.

[ClassWarrior]

5. No - reframe! Anything to the right of Holy Joementum is Radical RW.

NGU.

[NewJeffCT]

8. you got it

Very conservative Joe Lieberman
Conservative John Kerry
Moderate Howard Dean

[tcfrogs]

2. In comparison to the other repugs

Lugar is definitely a moderate. I'm not as familiar with Hagel, but it's fair to call Lugar a moderate Repug.

[NewJeffCT]

7. how is he a moderate?

Is he pro-choice?
Did he vote against the Iraq War authorization?
did he vote against the Bush environmental bills?
did he vote against ANWR?

[tcfrogs]

9. Moderate in comparison to other Repugs

The far-right fringe Repugs, that is.

[NewJeffCT]

12. we can't use that sort of language...

We have to call a spade a spade. Lugar is probably to the right of Barry Goldwater, but the Republican party itself has moved so friggin far to the right that Goldwater would be a liberal these days.

[ClassWarrior]

4. Maybe they mean that they're moderately criminal.

But I think that's like being a little pregnant.

NGU.

[peacetalksforall]

6. My opinion of Hagel omits rankings. I think he is a criminal for his part

in the theft of our votes. I cringe when people praise him.

Lugar could be a better mod...but he NEVER seems to fail in his partisan votes with the cabal.

[NEDem]

10. Is that tin-foil hat just a little to tight today?

jeesh...

Hagel is a traditional republican, which pretty much puts him in the moderate category in the political climate today.

Sorry to make you cringe, but as a constituent, I've voted for Hagel, and considering nobody with any substance will run against him, I'll most likely vote for him again.

[peacetalksforall]

13. My vote is too precious to me. How can he, as an executive of one

of the Republican voting machine developers, not know what is going on? My vote is all it takes with me. No tinfoil hat.

My tinfoil hat is now on for the following: my intuition has me asking whether he has a role...to contribute to the DIS-REALITY of the Party messages that makes us think there are moderates. Anyone who consistently votes with Lott and now Frist is not a moderate. Maybe I don't follow his votes as you do. But I hear the 'on-block' yeas and nays in a solid chorus.

[Hippo_Tron]

15. We really shouldn't be supporting ANY Republican senators for re-election

But as you said, Hagel doesn't seem to have any real opposition usually, so it doesn't matter one way or another.

[NEDem]

16. absolutely

I wouldn't normally support a republican, I've only voted for one other one before, because the "Democrat" was the former head of the Nebraska Christian Coalition.

Here in Nebraska, much like anywhere else, you have your Hagel style traditional Republican, and your fundie nutjob republican. I'll take my chances with a traditionalist over a wacko any day of the week.

I happen to not have that big of a problem with Hagel, I don't really agree with much of his voting record, and that alone would normally cause me to intensely dislike the guy, but for some reason I trust him. I know there are those that think he's part of some conspiracy with voting machines, but I just don't buy into that.

With that said: Do I think there may have been problems with the 2004 vote count, yes, do I think Hagel was directly involved, absolutely not. He may be a republican, but he ain't that stupid.

[ProgressiveDepot.com]

11. If you don't take part in a subpoena to get a woman in a vegetative state

to testify in congress, you are a moderate in today's world.

[Hippo_Tron]

14. They criticized Bush on Iraq and I think called for Rummy's resignation

But other than that they are standard Repukes.