Jeb Bush Taking Blame on Schiavo, the law is not an acceptable excuse

[Inland]

Those fundies who think that Jeb should have the strength of their convictions are blasting him for failing to order the state to force the Schiavo feeding tube back in.

Jeb's reasoning for inaction--that the law is what it is and simply doesn't allow him to ignore court orders--would be good enough for you and me and most normal people.

But the fundies, spurred by the pandering rhetoric of Buchanan, Bennett, and others, state that the law and the court are PRECISELY what Jeb should be ignoring. The law and the court are EVIL. Anything that gets rid of law or courts is to be embraced: any Bushie that allows the law or courts to prevent him from doing the godly thing is part of the problem.

And fundies can see that W. has no problem telling courts to fuck off when throwing Jose Padilla in the brig, forever, incommunicado, or in torturing, or in declaring Cheney's meetings top double x secret, or in just doing whatever he wants when out of the public eye. Fundies built a cult of personality around Bush for exactly that sort of dictatorial action, so they can't understand why he won't do it now.

[liveoaktx]

1. Vigilante justice

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Two wrods: WACO, OKC... those are the kidns of winds

jeb has sown

[hippiechick]

3. Hooooooo boy

Here comes the GOP's wet dream - fundies lining up behind them to abolish 'law of the land'.

Our side better make nice with the Libertarians, and fast.

:scared:

[Freedom_from_Chains]

4. It's never too late

Us Libertarians have been trying to tell you for years where this shit leads to.

[hippiechick]

9. Time to to join the DU Indy Meetup !

:hi:

Seriously, I've often wondered why Dems and Libs don't work together on SOME of the 'gov't imposition' issues that the GOP has tried to enforce ... sometimes divergent groups need to put their other differences aside when what they have in common is so vitally important to the country as a whole.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

17. I think this is very true

Particularly in these times when a serious resistance to those who want to change the structure of our government is needed.

[janx]

15. It's been pretty obvious to all of us, I think.

Reagan welcomed them in with open arms. It's just that now, it's getting a bit dangerous... ;-)

I have a bit of a libertarian streak myself and wonder why the Dems (with the changes going on in the party to to what the fundies have done to the Repub party) haven't allied with the libertarians sooner.

[janx]

16. Please see my post #13.

It'll set your hair on fire. What don't the fundamentalist "Christians," who hijacked the Republican party, not understand about the separation of powers in the Constitution?

[Freedom_from_Chains]

18. When a group is fueled by belief

Understanding, a cognitive function, is not something that comes into play.

[mikehiggins]

8. No no no

The last thing the corporations want is a collapse of the current order. Sure, they'd love to rip us off by changing SocSec and by eliminating any control of the borders so low cost workers can flood the market, etc., etc.

They are too smart, however, to see any value in eliminating laws and legalisms. 99% of the time those things work in their favor. What doesn't work in their favor? Anarchy.

No real businessman is looking forward to the rapture. Most know that if they listened to Christ at all, they'd be in a much different place currently, and could expect to end up in a much different place after the Final Judgment. (If you beleive in that sort of thing like our Fundie friends and relatives)

Bush is a tool of the rich, which is my point, and the last thing the rich want is to have to face the poor without the protections the law and the state provide them.

"They got the guns, but we got the numbers" was very true during the VietNam era, but in the case of societal collapse, we've got the guns too. If businessmen were really smart they'd be working night and day to get rid of that second amendment.

[mtnester]

5. Getting rid of ANY law that is not set down by the Church is what these

people LIVE for.

If they win, get your marshmallows out folks. The will begin burning gays, adulteresses and witches soon.

This kind of fervor is one of the main reasons this country fought the revolution over. As a descendant of an American Revolution patriot, and also of those who were persecuted right out of Scotland TO this country during the Jacobite uprising in the late 1600's after being imprisoned in Ireland, I am appalled that religion is attempting to dictate how this country should be run.

No, strike that, appalled is to weak of a word. I am scared shitless that we won't be able to stop it.

[madaboutharry]

6. These people see themselves

as modern day French Partisans fighting off evil. They are so convinced of their righteousness that they would view kidnapping Mrs. Schiavo and reinserting the feeding tube akin to destroying Nazi railroad lines and command posts of the Vichy. To them the rule of law is wrong, so the right thing would be to ignore it.

[rzemanfl]

12. But not to Iraqis blowing up tanks and oil lines. n/t

[doublethink]

7. You know .....

Ominously speaking, though a lot of this Schivo political B.S. has backfired on the administration ..... it has pushed these fundies over the edge to disregard 'law' and our Constitution. What concerns me now is how 'accepting' these nut cases will be to martial law, when and if another 'terrorist' attack happens on home soil ....

[mikehiggins]

10. Waco, anybody?

If the fundies come to think Bush has sold them out, either Bush, you can expect to see terrorism from among THEIR ranks. They won't be supporting martial law, they'll be the reason for it.

[aquart]

11. Lie down with dogs.........

The Bush boys should be itching and scratching about now.

[janx]

13. It's not just the Buchanan and Bennett type who are fueling this:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050324-114416-7261r.htm


DeLay and others in Congress are citing that the courts are "in contempt of Congress"--whatever the heck that means.

They're spreading misinformation to the masses in order to appear more powerful than they actually are and to get people riled.

[ClassWarrior]

14. The New Rightwing Permissiveness has created an atmosphere of lawlessness.

NGU.

[illflem]

19. religion is the last refuge of scoundrels