Ann Coulter and the Cherokee Nation

[MSgt213]

After spending half a column berating prior federal interventions into state matters but justifying the conservatives’ politicization of the Terri Schiavo case, conservative columnist Ann Coulter instructs Florida Governor Jeb Bush to ignore “the illiterate ramblings of a state judiciary.” She supports her advice by providing him with this precedent:

President Andrew Jackson is supposed to have said of a Supreme Court ruling he opposed: “Well, John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it.” The court’s ruling was ignored. And yet, somehow, the republic survived.

What was the context in which President Andrew Jackson uttered those famous words to Supreme Court Justice John Marshall?

In 1832 the Cherokee Indian tribe lived on land guaranteed them by treaty. They found gold on that land. Georgia tried to seize the land. The Cherokees sued. And eventually the Supreme Court, in Worcester v. Georgia, held in favor of the Cherokees. Georgia then refused to obey the Court. President Andrew Jackson reportedly said, “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it.” And Jackson sent troops to evict the Cherokees, who traveled the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma, thousands dying along the way.

http://www-nocache.thinkprogress.org/index.php

[Lerkfish]

1. I'm intrigued at how many wingnut whackjobs are avocating unlawful

behaviour.

somehow, when they do it, its a heroic mission from god to break the law.

[Eric J in MN]

5. Fox News' John Gibson as well

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151442,00.html

[rodeodance]

7. John Gipson--he is sickening!!

[Lerkfish]

10. OMG! does he see the flaw in his own reasoning?

He points out micheal and terri shiavo are still married....doesn't he realize that also means he should have final say in her treatment, as a legal spouse?

wingnuts are missing the logic gene.

[Eric J in MN]

11. John Gibson's argument is that while legally they're married, that

because Michael Schiavo is living with another woman and has children with her,
that practically he and Terri Schiavo aren't married, and so the law should be ignored and Jeb Bush should send in state troopers.

I don't agree with any of the above, but that is what John Gibson is arguing.

[LiberalFighter]

25. Would that mean that if Terri had a child with Michael while

in PVS that the child would be considered illegitimate because he was living with another woman?

[Seabiscuit]

34. Ah, yes, if we could all just ignore/change all the messy little facts

Seems to be the springboard for every position espoused by the asswipe Schindlers and their not-so-merry band of KKKristian thugs and media cohorts.

[dkofos]

22. That's funny

You used wingnuts and logic in the same sentence.
Since when have wingnuts been logical??

[Kber]

29. Scariest part of Gibson's piece

"Oh John, you're not saying judges aren't real people, are you?

Well, judging by what happened here, I'd say yes, that's exactly what I'm saying."

Wasn't that the exact argument the Nazi's used to justify the genocide of the Jews? I mean, if their not "real" people, than it's not "real" murder is it? Im I imagining things or is that the coded message here?

[canadajoe]

37. Are Americans racist pigs or just nuts?

Your President G. W. Bush flew to Washington from Crawford Texas to sign legislation passed by the Congress to "save Terri". He wants to "err on the side of life." Yet couldn't find the time to visit the Red Lake Indian Reserve to succour residents and victims of the shooting. Don't you Yanks like Indians?

"Save Terri", "respect life", and in the words of John Gibson, "storm the Bastille, Jeb". If you are white your life andit's protection is important. If you are an Indian and killed by guns...it isn't.

God Bless America

[iamjoy]

2. Ann Is Amazing

Looking up to a Democrat, well, golly gee

But, about that idea anyway...
:freak:

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

3. Never going beyond the Headlines

Seems that Ann is as guilty as the rest of the zealots, they read the headlines, make a decision based on feelings, and then refuse to delve any deeper in the situation.

You point out the repercussions from the President ignoring the order simply was out of Ann's reality...... but then again 9 Indian's being slaughtered in MN even today doesn't bring much notice of an American President.

[rodeodance]

8. ther is a news article on DU--says Bush has been silent on Red Lake!!

[Tux]

4. Figures

Why do Republicians think that destroying a people for money is a good idea? Is it in the Bible? Why must we let these people even be citizens if they constantly want to break the law?

[blindpig]

13. yes, it is in the Bible

check out the conquest of Canaan. Hell, there's justification for damn near anything in there.

[Hard Attack]

6. She Really Put her Adams Apple in Her Mouth!

[Nothing Without Hope]

21. It LOOKS like a big adam's apple, but it's really a VENOM GLAND. n/t

[glarius]

9. She has said Canada is lucky the USA doesn't just wipe us out!

Not an exact quote, I can't remember exactly what I heard her say, but words to that effect...She is a hate-filled woman, sadly.

[paineinthearse]

12. Another case of Coulter's dementia

[sarcasmo]

14. Thanks Ann for telling Jeb that Martial Law is OK send in the troops.

[Zhade]

15. It's amazing to me...

...how Andrew Jackson is so idolized, even by some who would have a problem with his theft of my ancestors' wealth and land.

I blame our media and educational system, personally.

[Clark2008]

19. As a Tennesseean, who is a typical Tennesseean of both

Cherokee and Scotch-Irish blend, I am in full agreement with you.
I do not idolize Andrew Jackson and find his attitute contemptous, even for the day and age in which he lived.
He was nothing but a drunken bully - kind of like Ann Coulter's hero GeeDub.

[Zhade]

27. Thank you!

I used to live in Tallahassee (went to FSU) and the praising of that man every year SICKENS me.

[hiley]

35. we sound

related ! Cherokee, Choctaw and Irish .
Ann may be the reincarnation of Jackson.






http://rantsbyhiley.blogspot.com/
http://www.seo-blog.org/5755_omfg_rageagainstthegop_machine

[nonconformist]

16. Vote for Greatest Page from me

Everyone needs to read this. If not only for more evidence of what a truly psychotic bitch Ann Coulter is, but to see what evil abounds in the precedent for the government disregarding the courts.

[Eric J in MN]

18. OK, I voted for your thread (nt)

nt

[Mr_Spock]

17. That kind of mental illness from Ann needs to be read by all - nominated

She is a psychotic person who needs to be institutionalized before she hurts somebody.

[BenDavid]

20. I have only this comment

"I would not have sex with Ann Coulter even with a borrowed penis."

[onenote]

23. you could borrow hers

[swimmernsecretsea]

31. LOL!! nt

[IronLionZion]

24. Too bad Jackson never said that

it was falsely attributed to him. And he didn't send troops for the trail of tears either, but he was a militant supporter of Indian Removal. Martin Van Buren sent troops to force the Indians on the trail of tears. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

"However, Jackson had no intention of protecting the Cherokees from Georgia, though the famous defiant quote attributed to him ("John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it!") was never uttered by him and is in fact a famous non-quotation." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson

[onenote]

26. makes sense since Coulter is a famous non-human

[Eric J in MN]

32. Thanks for clarifying that. Ann Coutler was too lazy to try

to determmine that, and just used the phrase "supposed to have said" to portect herself.

[atommom]

28. It's not anarchy if RWers break the law, it's noble.

Likewise, RW protestors are noble and need to be treated with kid gloves. And televised. And televised some more. And....

[Eric J in MN]

30. Either this shows insensitivity towards American Indians on her

part, or reckless research in using a quote wihout investigating the contents.

[checks-n-balances]

33. I don't see it as an either/or. Why can't it be both?

She makes a living saying insensitive things all on her own and quoting other people recklessly without researching at all.

Edited for typo

[jmcon007]

36. exactly right about Jackson

The Cherokees were uprooted from their rightful homeland thanks to the shameful actions of Andrew Jackson and what was called quite bluntly: The Indian Removal Act.
They were forced to move in terrible winter months, guaranteeing the deaths of the old and very young. Imagine someone with a gun coming into your home and with the backing of the government, telling you you had to pack only what you could carry and start walking the distance from North Carolina to Oklahoma. Fun times, huh?
Ann Coulter is a bitch, so we have to consider the source when anything at all is attributed to her.