The Constitution isn't important, huh???

[sandnsea]

Move on. Terri and the shredding of the separation of powers has had its fifteen minutes.

Move on. Good god was that the right name for the Democratic Party.

I always thought THEY were the ADD party. Nope. It's us.

The right-to-lifers are about to allow the government to redefine life. They are taking one more step in removing the right of the individual to make their own medical decisions. The media has totally ignored Texas law that allows hospitals to remove life support over the wishes of family, and your own directives. The Congress just overruled the courts.

And you people are bored and want to move on. :eyes:

I swear to god it's no fucking wonder we lose. We ought to be organizing Save the Constitution marches at this very moment.

Move on. :grr:

[Stand and Fight]

1. Precisely.

Jefferson would shame our cowardice and lack of action. I feel your frustration and the apathy that abounds in this country is sickening, and the fact that so many Democrats are just as prone to it is most distressing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. I have marched, I have petitioned

I have stood in the rain... I have sent letters and emails

Now more than ever I am convinced that our only hope is a revolution, alas one does not happen until people are hungry, cold and tired enough. We are not there yet... but the bills that they have passed (no not Schiavo, that is Nazi tactics), are the seed of their own destruction.

[sandnsea]

4. It's frustrating for many

It's just we can never seem to get together on anything. What Congress did is pretty blatant and I don't care that Democrats let it happen. That's when the people are supposed to get riled up the most. If we can't get together over this obvious power play by Delay and the religious right, over something as basic as a right to die with dignity, then I fear we'll never get together at all. We even have popular opinion on our side with this one. I can't understand the people who don't get it.

[Stand and Fight]

6. The 1960s need to occur all over again.

Only this time with more outrage, more wrath.
We are daily being enslaved and our liberties raped constantly. When shall we throw off the shackles of complacency and remind this government of The Social Contract, for it seems that it has been forgotten wholly.

[Stand and Fight]

5. As a student of history...

I have observed that human kind suffers from a most peculiar malady; that is, we seem to only learn the most vital lessons from the most horrid tragedies. I think this shall prove true yet again in America in my life-time. This current imbalance, this insanity, cannot continue uncorrected, unless we desire an untimely ruin.

[lastliberalintexas]

3. Not to mention the bill of attainder

passed by our Senate (with the help of Dems even), the threats to living wills/powers of attorneys/directives to physicians and the excuse for ramming Bush's judicial nominees down our collective throats.

While I understand people's frustration with the coverage that this case is getting that other, equally as important issues did not, the Schiavo matter isn't the typical media red herring, a la the Michael Jackson trial, the Jessica Lunsford murder, etc. This actually IS a matter which can or will affect us all in the future- the ability to control one's own body and medical treatment. It doesn't mean that others matters should be drowned out, but this is actually far more important than the typical BS distraction issue.

[sandnsea]

7. We have popular opinion

Wha the hell better time to take to the streets then when you actually have public opinion on your side? An opportunity to expose the religious right, the money, the pandering, that memo, all of it. Another perfect opportunity laid in our lap and we let it slip right by.

Reminds me of a story.

A man was praying on his roof during a flood. A raft came by and the people asked the man if he wanted help, nope, God was going to save him. A row boat and a helicopter came by, nope, God was going to save him. When the man died and went to heaven, he asked God why He didn't save him. God said "I sent you a raft, a row boat and a helicopter, what more did you want?"

He sent us Gannon, Terri, and Tom Delay. If we can't get the truth out with that trifecta, we're truly a sorry bunch.

[Robeson]

9. Great parable.

[DearAbby]

8. One thing we must not forget are those that wished to gain power

and have the door open to enter, are those that wish to turn this country into a Theocracy, This case is such, it reaches into the very heart of what they wish to overturn...ROE v WADE.

The extreme religious right has hold of our government and it is in danger of becoming an American Christian Taliban....But let's move on...Nothing to see here...Hey anyone going to catch the interview with Robert Blake?

[Q]

10. It's no 'fucking wonder' why we lose because...

...Democrats are cowards and always have to play it safe instead of taking a stand.

Why is the 'brain-dead' issue more important than stolen elections or wars based on lies? Why didn't the Dems take on THOSE issues? Why? Because THOSE issues would have threatened their lifelong political careers and corporate backing...seemingly more important to them than this country or the people.

We've been waiting for over four years for the Dems to take a stand and THIS is what they choose? After all that has come before?

[janx]

14. It's not an either/or situation.

It's the same thing. This specific angle happens to hit closer to home. It's more transparent and more directly threatening to average Americans.

[sandnsea]

15. Who said move on from those issues?

We aren't continuing to fight for real election reform? When did that issue go away, I totally missed it. I thought there were several good bills in Congress. I thought there were still cases in court. I thought people were still trying to find evidence, something a politician could stand behind.

Wars based on lies? Might have made some progress on that if we'd given Congress a bit of cover. But no, we insisted that they were all guilty and then wondered why they didn't admit to conspiring to commit war crimes with Bush.

This isn't about a brain-dead woman. It's a clear example of the right wing theocrats pushing a handful of Congressmen into usurping the Constitution.

Or at least it was until the feminist, disabled and African American interest groups got involved.

[ClassWarrior]

11. The Republicons play up the Constitution like it's another obstacle...

...they must defeat in order to protect ordinary Americans. These people are way off the mind-fuck map.

NGU.

[oldcoot]

12. What is the Constitution? Is it a new brand of toilet paper?

I think that we have several problems with this case, which make it a hard case to fight.

1)Too many of us are use to the media spending days and months on court cases, celebrities, and the problems of pretty young white women at the expense of more significant stories. Not surprisingly, many assumed that this story was also a distraction. Unfortunately, it is no distraction.

2) As a nation, we really do not do a good job educating people about science or our government. Whether we are talking about evolution or human anatomy, it does not help if many people have had very little exposure to science. For example, how do you talk to people who believe that Terri Schiavo will one day recover fully?

3) We have gotten to use to focusing on personalities instead of the larger issues. In this case, too many people are focusing on whether or not Michael Schiavo is a "good person" and whether or not Wanda Hudson is a "good mother," and not the broader implications of each case.

[janx]

13. Good for you!

:toast: