Pundit Pap: Meet the Press -- Makes me Puke

[autorank]

:puke:

Broder said the public isn't quite interested in DeLay's redistricting but the gambling interests funding his trips is something that gets our curiosity. He then says Delay has plausible denyability on the trips. Dave, how long do you have to be around.

The rest have trouble stringing two or three sentences together. Gwen Ifill, :wtf: are you saying.

Ron Brownstein and the WJS guy talk about Social Security without noticing and * has been slammed. WSJ guy thinks people "under 50" may like the * philosophy.

Pumpkin Head Russert, what a jackass. He talks about * calls him "a confident man," as opposed to the generally accepted DU wisdom that he's barking mad. Broder endorses it.

This is cruel and unusual punishment. Now I know why I almost always avoid it.

PS. Broder calls Bolton and Wolfowitz first rate appointments.:nuke:

[acmejack]

1. Senility is setting in!

Too bad, Broder made some sense at one time.

[chelsea0011]

3. What happened to him? He has lost it.

[chelsea0011]

2. I'm getting ill watching this myself.

Broder and Timmy equate Bush's laziness with confidence. Bush is disengeged and has tunnel vision. They seem to think this is one determined guy.

[autorank]

4. Doesn't it just make you want to throw the TV.

And where are the people they're supposed to interview.

This is incestuous journalism, interviewing reporters about reporting the news.

[chelsea0011]

6. remember when MTP was MTP? Four members from MSM and a pol.

[merbex]

5. Russert said the same thing at the Kennedy Library

I'm paraphrasing but close to "Say what you want about B*,but you know where he stands;he has convictions."

When I heard him say that I wanted to yell So did Hitler!

[acmejack]

13. * Convictions

I am waiting for him to get one more, preferably from the World Court!

[Pirate Smile]

7. Thank you for letting me know not to both watching the repeat

tonight on MSNBC. Why torture myself? I'd rather not.

Did Myers say anything worth hearing or just the standard Bush spin which I would expect?

[salin]

8. Broder has really changed over the years...

read him locally in the wapo back in the mid eighties - generally was pretty even handed - but insightful... including discussing implications of things such as major appointments. Calling those two nominations "first rate" is not the Broder of long ago.

[autorank]

11. Makes me wonder if he's had an implant. Not at all like the guy

I grew up reading. He'd really weigh in there in key issues.

Broder looked scared, the rest a bit more confident but they were either spinning hard for * or obfuscating like Ifill.

Gotta be that doe ray me...here are your talking points kids, get to it.

[salin]

17. Did *anyone* mention the controversial nature

of either of these appointments... the international nature of the appointments and the way these appointmens are read internationally?

[autorank]

38. Sorry for the delay, not a word mentioned. Brilliant, huh?

[Algorem]

9. They know what they're getting paid fwhore.

[solinvictus]

10. Russet has been a whore for some time now..

He spoke here at UAB and a local Israeli-sponsored charity backed his visit. Russert has destroyed the credibility of "MTP" and turned it into an amen corner for establishment figures.

[autorank]

12. Great sig line. Much of Orwell comes to mind. War on the people...

Perpetual war by * impoverishes us, reinforces the hierarchy, and keeps the plutocrats in power...ah Orwell.

The press people are so important in this and such exquisite courtesans. "Gannon" follows in their tradition.

[solinvictus]

32. "Homage to Catalonia"

I'm re-reading it now. I love Orwell as a writer and political analyst. Left, right, whatever; he saw through the lies.

[agingdem]

14. Relax!

No one gives a damm what Timmy and his blathering gang have to say except other Timmys and Rons and Davids and Howards, etc. I live in Texas (sorry!) and the Delay garbage is having an impact and with gas prices what they are, well, it appears that those lovely citizens who blame their miserable lives on gay married terrorists are now pointing their fingers at their fearless leader taking old Georgie's name in vain.

[autorank]

23. What ho, news from the Rialto! That's great.

What happens when CM (corporate media) becomes completely irrelevant. I'm especially glad to hear that the good people of Texas are grossed out by DeLay. We've got a quieter but somewhat similar situation in Virginia. Great Democratic governor but the 1st Republican controlled leg in anyone's memory. They are so stupid, a bunch of them are going to get tossed. I'd love to see us come back hard in Texas. Get rid of hair boy and a bunch of those leg nut cases. I wish you well!

[Imajika]

15. Generally accepted DU wisdom...

"Pumpkin Head Russert, what a jackass. He talks about * calls him 'a confident man,' as opposed to the generally accepted DU wisdom that he's barking mad. Broder endorses it."

Yeah, well, I wouldn't buy into the generally accepted DU wisdom. Bush is a confident man - the fact that I/we disagree with him on virtually everything doesn't change this fact. Bush is not, in my opinion, barking mad - the fact that the majority on DU believe Bush is barking mad, an idiot, a moron, stupid, etc, continually leads us and the left in general to underestimating our number one opponent which makes it easier for him to achieve victories.

Never, never underestimate your opponent. Yet, so many here do it on a daily basis by buying into this nonsense that Bush is stupid or crazy. He is neither. Bush is a crafy, wily, tough politician who knows how to sell himself and gut his political opposition. Additionally, he has very good strategists and communications people around him which makes Jr. even more dangerous.

And as far as the DU conventional wisdom goes - well, that's wrong all the time so I wouldn't put much stock in it. To believe the DU accepted wisdom, you'd have thought we were going to win big in 2002, Kerry was headed for a victory in 2004, etc, etc.

Saying all that. Your right, the MTP panel was horrible this morning. I believe I heard Gwen Ifill call Bush a "great" President. WTF? Great President? How anyone considers out of control deficits, an army pinned down in the Middle East, a collapsing dollar, both NK and Iran having or about to obtain nukes, etc, to be great I simply don't have a clue.

Imajika

[agingdem]

16. Entirely possible that...

Gwen and Condi may be having a "thing".

[autorank]

20. Mental picture....AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Our Secretary dons her fighting gear to battle the invaders. Long live the Secretary.

[sallyseven]

22. I agree. Bush is playing being a cowboy.

He is a fool and a man on a mission to give away every thing to the rich because he owes them. The rest of us can go to hell. He knows that the deficits, the dollar, productivity in the workplace are all in the toilet. He doesn't care this will move the PNAC closer to world dominance. That is the goal. Iraq has oil and he wants it. That is why they wanted Chalibe in charge over there. They do not want the Gov. of Iraq to get too uppity and think the oil is theirs. Just as when Iran first wanted to keep their oil and take charge of it Winston Churchill and the US said no and installed the Shah of Iran. He was brutal. Americans are being hoodwinked into believing all this values crap. Bush does not have values and neither does the rest of his family. Republican politicians are corrupt and dangerous. They support DeLay and all the crap going on now. If one more person says that they would vote for McCain I will throw up. He made a fool of himself this morning. He stated that the family thinks that she can be rehab. No stupid she can't there is no there there. My rant for today. Beware of dictators.

[Donna Zen]

33. Gwen and Condi

are long time friends. The kinda girl friends who visit, cook dinner together. and yack. Gwne, if she had any honor, would excuse herself from moderating debates and commenting on these matters. She clearly is unable to separate her personal connections from her role as a journalist (sic).

Ditto Russert... a Rummy pal. Good friends.

Another Sunday provides another opportunity to utter the words: Glad I missed it.

[autorank]

18. Ifill ..."a great President." God, I'm headed for the window.

Good thing I'm on the first floor. You're right about *'s competent side. This panel reflects the "total control" philosophy the Republicans adopt...make it clear to the CM (corporate media) and every other power faction of this country that you expect a total party line which can, on occasion, include mild criticism. * is also a nihilist and he does have some significant problems with reality testing. Nevertheless, he pushes forward, not in charge I believe, but as the representative of the ugliest side of our culture...and all the time wearing the Christan mask. I do think he is poised for some type of collapse because, as a narcissist/sociopath, he must be fed compliments. All the items you mention in your last paragraph plus much, much more will come together in a perfect storm of failure. The compliments will stop abruptly. That's when we need to watch for an implosion.

:hi:

[ribrepin]

24. Do you mean the Poodle Press?

Poodle Press describes them so much better than Corporate Media. Nothing says lightweight better than "Poodle Press".

[grannylib]

27. Yeppers, gotta keep this one going! See Poodle Press thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1668099&mesg_id=1668099

edited to add link

[ginnyinWI]

28. Bush is "strong and wrong" like Clinton said

What interested me about Meet the Press this morning was how academic all of the issues seemed to the journalists. Like nothing the Bush administration has done or will do will actually hurt anyone. But it does--people are dying every day. They are up in their ivory towers looking down on it as if it were some kind of game.

Another thing: they all agreed that the Democrats are too negative, and are not doing anything but saying "no". This is, of course, patently untrue. The Dems in Congress are proposing amendment after amendment, and bill after bill, largely to no avail. How can they accuse the Dems of doing nothing, when they have been pushed into a minority status and are routinely ignored, castigated, and voted down? It's got to take a lot of courage to be a Democrat on the Hill these days.

[Jack Rabbit]

19. The Polish strollers

There is a story how in Poland during the waning days of Communism, the people would protest the propaganda on state/party run television and take a walk during the evening news in order to demonstrate that they weren't watching it.

Whole communities would be out walking at 6 pm.

I think I need to stretch my legs.

[autorank]

21. Perfect. This one has legs.

[ribrepin]

25. Good idea!

What wants to watch the "Poodle Press" peeing? Oops, I mean talking.

[Matsu]

34. Been doing that for the last fifteen years.

Getting away from the T.V., taking a walk in the freah air. A plan with no negatives.

I've heard that viewership of the mainstream news is roughly a third of what it was in the early 80s, so a lot of people have been turning their backs on Peter Jennings for a while now. Doesn't appear to have slowed down his nonreporting of newsworthy events.

[grannylib]

26. What else can we expect from the lapdogs in the Poodle Press?

"Confident" and "mad" are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
I would probably characterize Ted Bundy as both...
What's your point, Timmy?? Neither correctness nor compassion nor morality necessarily follows from confidence. Big fucking deal, he's "confident." Arrogant sack of shit is more like it.

[autorank]

30. Bundy Bush, priceless!

[Dr Fate]

29. I see ZERO difference between Russert & Jeff Gannon.

What is the difference?

[autorank]

31. Umm, let's see...oh yeah, "Gannon" can bench press a heck of a lot more.

[Matsu]

35. The difference.

Russert's a bottom. (Guckert's an ass.)

[Jack Rabbit]

36. Gannon's got another job on the side

Gannon's two jobs and Russert's one all seem to be in the same line of work.

[Wilms]

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