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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:20 AM
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Pat. Buchanan says Judge sentenced Terri S. to die for no crime. Whow
the language is getting fiece!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:21 AM
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1. Pat also says that Congress is her last resort (right to die language)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:22 AM
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2. Pat misses the point--it is not the parents who decide.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:23 AM
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3. not right to call judges murders (Delay)--somone on the Left is also
talking of the issue on Msnbc
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:24 AM
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5. NOW Pat. B says Congress should not be involved in PRIVATE base-
ball problems. good grief, what about the private family decisions!!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:23 AM
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4. She is already dead. And the living are paying the price of keeping
her empty shell breathing.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:26 AM
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6. Pat says no more new laws for baseball but ok to have congress make
news for private family matterers. When will people wake up!!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:27 AM
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7. Another abandonment of the "sanctity of marriage" stance.
Yep. It's just fine to respect spousal entitlements as long as they conform to the jackbooted political correctness. :eyes:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:36 AM
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8. I would say that isn't inconsistent with Buchanan's conservatism
Fear of death and resistance to change were the 2 core dimensions of conservatism. Recognized by Jost et al.

Congress is basically grandstanding an issue that unifies conservatives. Not unlike they way they play fear of terrorism.







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wildmanj Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:11 AM
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9. pat
then maybe mr buchanan would enjoy paying the bill for keeping this lady alive for the rest of his life and her life--send money pat she is now in your care
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:23 AM
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10. This decision happens every day in medical care. It is natural and normal
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:29 AM
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11. No one sentenced her to anything
It was God's decision she die when he gave her that heart attack. Doesn't he believe in God?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:45 AM
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12. Damn, and Pat was making so much sense lately too...
...maybe somebody told him he'd get kicked out of conservatism unless he said something stupid again.

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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 12:36 PM
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13. I take her husbands's word for it............
as we all should. She didn't want to live in this state, as neither would I. I told my husband, please don't every let this happen to me. However, I plan on putting it in writing with a paragraph stating that no persons, including a "Corrupted Government" has the right to intervene.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 12:50 PM
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14. Can someone clarify the legalities of....
the courts' decision and the power that Congress has (or doesn't have) to intercede in a Judicial decision?

As I understand it, the Fla courts rendered their decisions about Terri--which held up under numerous appeals.

Now our Congress steps in.

Congress makes the laws. The Judiciary interprets the laws.

So...according to the separation of powers--how can Congress (which is a law-making entity), have anything to say about a Judicial decision?

Congress can pass a new law. I get that. What I don't get, is how they can attempt to affect a Fla Judicial decision?

Also, Tom DeLay said they were going to hold the judge, who said Terri's feeding tube could be removed on Friday, in "Contempt of Congress." See, I'm not getting how Congress can reach over into the Judicial branch of government and render punishments--when that type of enmeshment isn't supposed to exist.

Sorry for all of the questions. I'm not an attorney, but I would like to understand all of this from a legal perspective, and I'm clearly not getting how the Repubs are getting away with any of this.

If someone can shed some light, I'd be most grateful.

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 12:57 PM
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15. The Guardian ad Litem's Assessment
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2270&ncid=2270&e=2&u=/krwashbureau/20050319/ts_krwashbureau/_bc_braindamagedwoman_guardian_wa

.... Wolfson was appointed by a Florida court in the fall of 2003 to be Schiavo's guardian ad litem, or guardian at law, to deduce Schiavo's best interests and represent neither her husband nor her parents but Terri Schiavo herself.

This makes Wolfson one of the very few people to have spent extended time with Schiavo and gauged her level of awareness without having a vested interest at stake.

In the end, after long hours at Schiavo's bedside and after poring over 30,000 pages of legal documents, Wolfson concluded that Schiavo was indeed in a permanent vegetative state. ....

But Schiavo never made eye contact. When Wolfson visited her when her parents were there, she never made eye contact with them either, he said. And for all of Wolfson's pleadings and coaxing, he never got what he most wanted: a sign. ....

Wolfson was dismayed to learn Friday that Barbara Weller, an attorney for the Schindlers, claimed that Schiavo tried to speak. "Terri does not speak," he said. "To claim otherwise reduces her to a fiction." ....

********UNQUOTE*******
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:18 PM
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16. Q: Since when did allowing a woman to die naturally amount to murder?
A: When right-wing loonies took over God's job to decide who lives and dies.
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