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KBlagburn Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:29 AM
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Why is this man in the White House? The majority of Americans did not vote for him. Why is he there? And I tell you this morning that he's in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this:
Lt Gen William Boykin, speaking of G. W. Bush, New York Times, 17 October 2003

compared to:


God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith, deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by God to save Germany.
Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:37 AM
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1. The only difference between them is, that was then with hitler, and
this is NOW with bush.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:57 AM
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2. the real difference...
Goering was a ace fighter pilot and a war hero... Boykin was a nobody somebody made a general.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:40 AM
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9. ...plus, Goering was a better dresser. eom
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:22 AM
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10. And Goering had 'the soldiers disease' from his wounds...
Morphine addiction.
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:53 PM
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12. How many zeroes does it take to add up to something? So many
leaders, so little brain power.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:39 AM
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3. This Guy Now Doesn't Even Even Measure Up To..
Der Fuhrer Or Il Duce..but perhaps Elle Douche?
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 06:32 AM
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4. You know?...I almost feel sorry for the Repug for their blind faith
and following like sheep just like those regular German citizens did. They have no idea what is happening to them and won't until something happens and they need something Bush has cut or they suffer due to a bill or proposal they let Bush get passed. They won't realize until it becomes a personal issue....then they will want something done about it.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 06:50 AM
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5. i think history lies.....
is it possible the hitler phenomenon was, just like bushinc, a 'hijacking' of a nation's propensity to law'n'order perverted by might is right?
4 million germans did, at great personal danger, vote against hitler in the '32 election, after all....the 'whiterosesociety' was based upon the anti nazis.....
historians wanted to throw out the bathwater (german extremism, cruelty and so on) while saving the baby (rightwingnut political criminality and social thuggery(???))
and it looks like they still want to....
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:23 AM
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6. The propensity is a feeling of inferiority and humiliation
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 07:37 AM by teryang
...the appeal of a mass ideology prone to uncritical faith and leader worship is to give one a sense of importance, strength and involvement in history by the otherwise anonymous and impotent individual who belongs to the powerful and militant mass.

Hence the sentiment of the faithful is that they have been victimized by foreigners (principally Muslims), minorities, intellectuals (liberals, journalists and other college educated but weak individuals), and homosexuals (and other scapegoats, like trial lawyers and litigous people) making life more complicated and expensive with their corrupt and self indulgent concern for legal rights and remedies.

Don't they have soldierly qualities? Aren't they soldiers for Christ?

The attack on social security is also an attack on weakness by those who believe in social darwinism but don't want evolution taught in school.

The weekly fundamentalist worship is an exercise in the experience of power they otherwise never experience. This is now duplicated in the political arena as Church and politics are now one. The chief ideologues of the movement, people like Pat Robertson and John Hagee are closely tied to the party and covert and overt government agencies. Their stooges have been filling government agencies for 25 years. It started out as a version of white (male) power as government agencies were "overun" with minorities.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:06 PM
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11. maybe power really corrupts(?)
the neocons/fundies etc build up their power using stealth, quickness scams, lies via hurried up media coverage and tried and tested psyche ops....maybe that's why, even when clinton was at top of his form, he came off as strangely powerless! Cuz every damn thing he did, the nazipoos got to drag it through the media mud. Remember Monica? whitewater? The same of course doesn't apply to bushinc....their power must feel unlimited, thus the awful corruption that's resulted is poisoning the future wells of their own children! In a way, it's so refreshing to know THIS WILL END BADLY for bush followers, but unfortunately we all caught up in the same mess....
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 09:00 AM
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8. I think they know. The real repugs -- execs and top managers -- don't
give a fig for religion or nationalism or anything else, although Boykin might. It's all about greed and fooling the TV-narcotized masses into surrendering everything they own to line the pockets of the rich. Period.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:53 AM
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7. Short and sweet response to your request for comments on the quotes:
Bush and Hitler
Same Shit - Different Assholes...
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