Trying to Repeal 22nd Amendment - Presidential 2 term limit

[Mnemosyne]

HJ 9

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:1:./temp/~c109NgHaLU::

Just read another post and seems some are not aware of what is in the works regarding this.

WAKE UP!! It's happening under our noses people.

Even my Mom's repube friends aren't aware of this shit. She had to prove it to them and they still won't believe it.

the Lunatic will be selected AGAIN if we can't stop this NOW.



on edit..

Many are saying it isn't possible for this to happen, takes too long, started in Clinton's terms, etc.

I ask you to consider this:

1. It IS a new world now, post September 11, 2001. The neocons are in power.

2. Who would have ever believed that it was possible we would have lost the freedoms we have lost since then on September 10, 2001?

3. How is it possible that a 284 page document aka "the Patriot Act" was created, signed, sealed and enacted within 35 days of 9/11, that basically took our rights and the rights of those around the entire world and flushed them down the toilet?

Just a few things to consider when you quickly think that the repeal of the 22nd amendment isn't possible.

[Last Lemming]

1. Clinton?

Now more than ever

[redirish28]

3. I am all for it.

[OneTwentyoNine]

40. I'm not for it at all.....

Unless its proven to me that Presidential elections are 100% fraud free. Let some electronic companies that give all their money to Dems supply the voting machines and we'll see how quickly this no term limits becomes a moot point to Repukes.

[redirish28]

44. in case you missed what i meant...

I meant I am all for clinton going again if the republicans try and renominate bush for a 3rd term.

[AntiCoup2K4]

8. Well, one good thing would come out of a Junior vs Clinton match-up

(And that's Bill, NOT hillary)

Actually I should say either one good thing or another.....

1) Clinton would be re-elected overwhelmingly proving that Chimp's popularity was always exaggerated

2) The Chimp would "win narrowly" yet again in a questionable state, proving once and for all that the elections have become corrupted either by means of Diebolding, or corrupt officials (Harris/Blackwell) or both.

Then comes the revolution.......

[truebrit71]

36. I'd love to see a debate between * and the Big Dawg...

I'd LOVE it!!!

[EVDebs]

13. "Do it for Bill, and skip Arnie altogether !" eom

[ComerPerro]

47. Yeah. That would work. Because, after all, computer voting isn't corrupt

Can you say: "George Bush, President for life"?

[The Doctor.]

2. link broken.

Got something else?

[NYCGirl]

4. It takes years to repeal an amendment. Bush will not be able to run again.

Chill.

[The Doctor.]

6. Question....

what obstacles create such a lengthy process and how could they be circumvented?

[tx_dem41]

12. Has to pass 2/3s of the Senate (and House?)...

..and then 3/4ths of the State Leges. Many State Leges are solidly Democratic, plus many meet every other year (although special sessions could be called by the Governor, I presume).

[The Doctor.]

17. So they just need to get more

Touch-screen and opti-scan machines out there.

Funny thing though... many of the bill's sponsors are Dems.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/000176.html

[tx_dem41]

18. That's because the bill was first introduced when Clinton..

was President. This isn't a Bush conspiracy. Heck, he couldn't even benefit by it.

[flaminbats]

28. 19 blue states..and only 13 needed to stop it

not going to happen for the same reason an electoral college still exists. Opposing the XXII Amendment, first proposed by Republicans, almost destroyed Harry Truman. Supporting an amendment to abolish term limits is political suicide.

[Debs]

43. Actually there is technically another way

If I am not mistaken, a constitutional convention can also amend the constitution

[terrya]

9. Exactly right.

No way would this happen (if it would) before November, 2008. There will be well organized opposition to such an amendment. Like a proposed amendment to allow foreign born citizens to run for President (proposed solely for Schwartznegger), this amendment would take years to ratify.

[serryjw]

46. Why do you say that ........

When the dems want it to pass also? Governor Jennifer Granholm is dying for this to pass so she can seek higher office

[Mnemosyne]

14. I'm not so sure.

They seem to have carte blanche on whatever they want at this point, and why did this bill show up when the Lunatic was taking office again?

I was worried before the selection that if Kerry somehow managed to pull it off the Lunatic would just declare martial law and keep him from taking office. Anyone know the laws regarding such? We need to know in case they try this in next selection. Forewarned to be prepared for counter attack.

[FtWayneBlue]

19. My guess is that just such a "plan B" was in the works,

Remember what the Bush regime was saying just before the election, that it might have to be POSTPONED if there was a terrorist attack?

That card didn't have to be played, though. Apparently Rove got word from enough operatives that the fix was in, so the selection could go on schedule.

[Mnemosyne]

23. I completely agree.

There is no depths to which they will not stoop to get their agenda through. sick f**ks.

[Nothing Without Hope]

45. My thinking exactly! n/t

[Mnemosyne]

20. Please consider this.

Many are saying it isn't possible for this to happen, takes too long, started in Clinton's terms, etc.

I ask you to consider this:

1. It IS a new world now, post September 11, 2001. The neocons are in power.

2. Who would have ever believed that it was possible we would have lost the freedoms we have lost since then on September 10, 2001?

3. How is it possible that a 284 page document aka "the Patriot Act" was created, signed, sealed and enacted within 35 days of 9/11, that basically took our rights and the rights of those around the entire world and flushed them down the toilet?

Just a few things to consider when you quickly think that the repeal of the 22nd amendment isn't possible.

[tx_dem41]

22. No one that I know of said it "isn't possible".

Can you point out where someone said that?

[Mnemosyne]

34. They have stated that he could not benefit from it,

I was referring to the Lunatic becoming president again if you read my post, not just the repeal of the 22nd amendment.

[tx_dem41]

37. "Just a few things to consider when you quickly think that the repeal ...

the 22nd Amendment"

That quote is why I thought your post (and this whole 22nd Amendment thread) was talking specifically about the 22nd Amendment.

[Bake]

25. Who IS that in your Lord of the Roots pic????

It's been bugging me for months!!

Bake

[NYCGirl]

42. That's Howard Dean! NT

[The Doctor.]

5. Try this:

http://thomas.loc.gov/

or just do one of these;

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2004-20,RNWE:en&q=22nd+amendment+repeal

[ohioan]

7. Even if it passed during his term - which it won't - it won't benefit Bush

[tx_dem41]

11. Good point. n/t

[tx_dem41]

10. Sigh...this has been going on for at least 6 years...

It started in the Clinton Administration (you'll notice several co-sponsors are Dems). This isn't some new Bush conspiracy.

[Mnemosyne]

21. Please consider this..

Many are saying it isn't possible for this to happen, takes too long, started in Clinton's terms, etc.

I ask you to consider this:

1. It IS a new world now, post September 11, 2001. The neocons are in power.

2. Who would have ever believed that it was possible we would have lost the freedoms we have lost since then on September 10, 2001?

3. How is it possible that a 284 page document aka "the Patriot Act" was created, signed, sealed and enacted within 35 days of 9/11, that basically took our rights and the rights of those around the entire world and flushed them down the toilet?

Just a few things to consider when you quickly think that the repeal of the 22nd amendment isn't possible.

[tx_dem41]

24. I ask again....

when did I "quickly think that the repeal of the 22nd amendment isn't POSSIBLE", as you claim? Or are you just misstating what I did say?

[Mnemosyne]

33. Sorry, guess I misunderstood.

It just seems many think it won't be possible during Lunatic's admin. I believe they are capable of anything.

Did not mean to offend.

I was responding to your statement that he could not benefit from it. I feel they could and would make things beneficial to him, did they not just steal 2 entire elections? Does that not make anything possible?

Just asking.

[tx_dem41]

38. No, it doesn't make anything possible.

I'm one of those few DUers that doesn't worship at the altar of Rove and the NeoCons thinking they are "all powerful". In fact, I think that they are incompetent. Its a shame that our side can't seem to be competent at times at fighting back.

[Mass]

15. Two terms is enough

I dont even want to imagine Bush elected for a third term, it is too much for me.

But I have to say that even if I start thinking about Clinton, I would not want him in power for a third term. I really think this post is too important to allow somebody to install a personnal power and this is what would happen.

Dont get lured into this by your love for Clinton. It is a bad measure.

What we need is a constitutionnal amendment for a fair and balanced coverage of the election. That way, a Democrat will be able to win, may be.

We also need to make voting a constitutionnal right.

[Mnemosyne]

16. Welcome to DU, home of hopefully some sanity and refuge!! n/t

:hi: :toast:

[Yupster]

39. Agree Mass

The two term rule is anti-democratic, but I'm for it.

We may lose a third term of a good president once in a while, but that's a good trade-off for avoiding the president for life crap that so many countries have to put up with.

I might even go for the one six year term rule that was in the Confederate Constitution.

[Name removed]

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[liberalpragmatist]

27. Philosophically I don't believe in term limits

So I'd be happy if it passed - sort of. I'm well aware of the practical applications and if it means that Bush would have a realistic chance at a third term, no way. Yeah, I dislike term limits b/c I believe it should be up to voters to decide when they want to terminate someone's term. However, I prioritize the end of Bush's presidency more than I prioritize repealing the 22nd. Hopefully if this passes this will be sometime in the future, not by 2008.

[Slyder]

29. While we are amending....

let's pass a constitutional amendment to ban the Republican Party, revoke the citizenship of all persons registered as Republicans, and deport them to countries that permit torture. After all anything can be legal if the Constitution permits it.

Note: this is meant to be satirical, and not be taken as a reflection of my real views. A Republican once told me that even the most heinous act of repression is OK if it is OK by the Constitution! Legal = Moral??????

[d_b]

30. I can live with that.

One more term of this jerkoff and he'll be drug out into the streets like Mussolini.

[WilliamPitt]

31. Can we get an un-busted link?

Thanks.

[Mnemosyne]

35. Sorry Will.

Try this.


http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.html

HJ9

I tried to paste in entire page link and as you can see, broken.

[Lone Pawn]

32. That would be absolutely wonderful.

Clinton would kick Bush's ass.

[OneTwentyoNine]

41. It wouldn't be retro-active the way I understand it....

Even Chimp couldn't run again unless the worded the amendment to allow previous Presidents another run. Doubt they would do that with Clinton not being very old.

[Liberty Belle]

48. Link's not working.