Bankruptcy bill vote now on Senate floor...n/t 6:13 EST

[realFedUp]

[Career Prole]

1. Time for the F5 key! n/t

[oldtime dfl_er]

2. for shame

Im at work and don't know who is voting how, but I think I can safely say: FOR SHAME.

www.showtheworld.com

[Robert Oak]

3. Even my parents diehard Republicans are ashamed by this n/t

[realFedUp]

4. these voted aye

Heard Biden, Carper, Jeffords, Nelson of Nebraska
and Stabenow (dammit) Who did I miss so far?

[realFedUp]

7. WTF-Stabenow

when did she get on the gravy train?

[Mass]

5. among others Democrats

Byrd, Biden, Kohl, Pryor, Bingaman, Stabenow voted yes

[realFedUp]

6. Hey Mass, welcome to DU

[Mass]

9. Thanks for the welcome

Add Lincoln to the YES list.

[realFedUp]

8. Mrs. Lincoln - aye

dammit

[Mandate My Ass]

10. Silly me, I thought a stolen election would be the worst thing I'd ever

see. They're taking hubris to heights I never even imagined here.

[Selatius]

11. I can't possibly understand how they can sleep at night voting yes

It is morally wrong, and anyone who claims to be a Christian there and votes for this needs to be called out as a damnable hypocrite.

[LittleClarkie]

12. What changes did Feingold get before the final vote

anything significant?

[realFedUp]

17. flpoljunkie has a thread going on these changes

[LittleClarkie]

43. Actually that thread only says that he worked for changes

not what they are.

Maybe that's why so many Dems voted for the thing. Because Feingold got it fixed.

[Mass]

48. NO

There was no modification before the final passage.

This bill passed in 2001 with an even bigger majority.

[LittleClarkie]

52. Flojunkie says there were

so who do I believe. Me confused.

[Mass]

62. He got a couple of basic amendment last night

One to include inflation in thresholds, and another one. But the bulk of his amendments was rejected as far as I know.

[tx_dem41]

55. According to the Senate's official roll call record, two amendments..

were passed today. One by Durbin(Dem) and one by Talent (Rep).

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_109_1.htm

[realFedUp]

13. Mr. Nelson of Florida aye.....

[bluedog]

67. no wonder he

didn't answer my e-mail...he sided with the bast***s

[ClintonTyree]

14. Ahhhhhhhh......................

just sit back, close your eyes and imagine the heavy iron doors clanging shut in the soon to be over occupied debtor's prisons. Not Corporate CEO's mind you, just regular folks like you and I. :eyes:

The credit card companies are celebrating tonight! Of course, all of those collections they'll be able to squeeze out of folks now will lead to MUCH lower interest rates for everyone else, right? Right? RIGHT? :shrug:

I think perhaps it's best if we don't hold our collective breath on that happening. Just more profit and more perks for those hard working CEOs that crafted this piece of..........legislation. :grr:

Another nail in the coffin of working people everywhere.

[realFedUp]

15. Evan Bayh - aye

forget running for Prez Evan.

[Mass]

16. Bayh YES

And he wants to run?

[suziedemocrat]

44. OK - I hate him - I WAS defending him this morning - but forget it!! n/t

[realFedUp]

18. Do we have a "shame" graphic ready to send? n/t

[realFedUp]

19. Holy Joe says NO!

[Career Prole]

21. What?!?!?! n/t

[Emboldened Chimp]

29. Get. The. Fuck. Out.

[LittleClarkie]

33. Would that be the DINO people are trying to oust?

Like I said, sometimes Joementum will surprise you. Better than a Republican in the seat.

[Mass]

35. Pb is that Lieberman is not a DINO

He is an hawk, but on social issues, he is fairly liberal.

He is in fact the opposite of Byrd.

[realFedUp]

57. We'll see how he votes on SS

[flpoljunkie]

38. LIeberman is one of those Dems who voted for cloture on this bad bill.

Without the cloture vote, this bill would have died.

The deed was done when the cloture vote passed.

[Mass]

46. Still better than Reid voting NO to the cloture and YES to the bill

Or Byrd voting YES to the two.

[hatrack]

56. HUH?!?!?!?!?!?

Get.Out.Of.Town.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KoKo]

64. Ha! That means he's feeling the heat from us Dems...

I don't think he ever met a Repug finance bill he didn't like.

[Mass]

65. I feel bad defending him

as I dont like him.

BUt he voted against the tax cuts in 2001 and 2003.

[KoKo]

69. But he and Dodd led fight in '93 to loosen the SEC Regulations which

allowed all the corruption on Wall St. Enron...the rest. Clinton's veto was over-ridden by their support.

He does have a good voting record on social issues, though. Maybe taxes and bancruptcy come under his "Dem Side." :shrug:

[Mass]

70. Never said he was perfect

He is far from that.

BUt I am too busy being mad at Reid to be mad at him right now.

[realFedUp]

20. my cat says no btw.....

smart kitty.

[housewolf]

22. Mr. Salazar - aye n/t

[realFedUp]

24. oy

[realFedUp]

27. Mr. Reid of Nevada - aye, Ms. Landrieu aye

goddamit

[realFedUp]

31. So Harry votes aye....

[Emboldened Chimp]

25. No surprise there

A grand disappointment this guy has been. Glad he's not my senator.

[realFedUp]

32. well, I'm surprised. n/t

[realFedUp]

34. gads, so many I won't support anymore.

Might as well go Independent again...

[Mass]

37. Salazar is not a surprise

Reid is..

[realFedUp]

45. Yeah, Harry was a surprise.

Hope the banks and credit card
companies support them in their
next election coz a lot of us
won't.

[realFedUp]

23. we're waiting....we're waiting....

[Mass]

30. Reid YES

WTF

[Stephanie]

54. WOW!

WTF?

Say no more about Reid. We are fucked.

[housewolf]

26. Reid of Nevada - aye!!!!

L

[housewolf]

28. Landrieu - aye

[Career Prole]

36. After the vote, go see what story hit the wire at just about the same

minute the vote started. :wtf:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1300976

[realFedUp]

39. 74 - 25

geez. A lot more Dems sold out on this one.

[Mass]

40. Still better than in 2001

There were 15 Nay votes.

[housewolf]

41. We gave them 20 votes...

This makes me SOOOOOO sad...

[Emboldened Chimp]

50. Fuck sad, I'm pissed

[realFedUp]

42. Does anyone have the whole list yet?

I'll look around.

[realFedUp]

74. list

Baucus
Bayh
Biden
Bingaman
Byrd
Carper
Conrad
Inouye
Johnson
Kohl
Landrieu
Lincoln
both Nelsons
Pryor
Reid
Salazar
Stabenow

Jeffords - Independent
Not voting: Clinton

[Pooka Fey]

47. We just get to sit and watch them dismantle our society brick by brick.

How could they do this to us???

[realFedUp]

49. If any of these people are your Senators, I hope you call them

I am so mad. I have never declared bankruptcy
and God willing, I hope I never have to but
this bill was a blatant kick in the kidneys
to individuals for the most part who aren't
going bankrupt to game the system but are in
dire need while this bunch of Congressional
whores for campaign funds ignores corporations
and the wealthy...again.

[Emboldened Chimp]

51. I know I'll be making a call to Feinstein....

...she's one of the 20, I'm certain.

[realFedUp]

53. let's find out first

I'm ready to make calls, but want to
be sure.

[TrustingDog]

58. I still don't know what this could really mean....

debtors prison to make chairs, etc. for corporate profit? finding new ways to get blood out of a stone?

If you're broke, what are they after? And we all know they're after $$$$$$ that they don't earn or deserve.

[realFedUp]

60. new Bush plan....pay up or ship out to the Bush wars

new form of in-justice.

[TrustingDog]

61. I think that's the ticket. thanks.

there may be 'forgiveness' if you serve the fodderland.

[realFedUp]

59. Looking forward to the shellacking Krugman will give each and every one

sad when you have to look forward to a
columnist putting things into reason.

[Donna Zen]

63. Time out for history:

Reagan's approval numbers dropped to 47%, and the Democrats have a huge majority in the House to stop this pillaging. Do they? No, the bipartisan, balm-spreading spirit of majority leader Tip O'Neill prevails.


"...the hundred-seat majority takes pains not to harm the President by forcing him to veto popular programs, acts of justice, compassionate deeds. Why not give him bills to not-sign, asks Richard Ottinger, the angry, anguished liberal Democrat. Let us restore student loans; it would 'sail through Congress' and let Reagan veto *that.* But the leadership will not allow it. the grinding of the poor is producing real misery and ugly neglect... Three of five Americans polled this June think Reagan favors 'the upper income people.' ...When Reagan threatens to veto a $1 billion appropriation for 'politically popular programs,' reports Congressional Quarterly, Democratic leaders, in panic, reduce it to $98 million, vetoing it themselves to spare Reagan the burden. ' O'Neill has given the ball game to Reagan,' says Ottinger, given the country to Reagan, given the American people to Reagan.

James Wolcott

[CornField]

66. Here's hoping history is repeating itself, Donna.

Unfortunately, I just don't think that's going to be the case.

[Donna Zen]

72. Geeze Cornfield,

I think you had better give this another read. The Dems screwed us then with a 100 seat majority.

Doing the same thing as a minority is a no-brainer.

Both parties are proud to be Cash Clowns.

[CornField]

73. LOL! You are right. I did misread it the first time.

The first time around I read that Congress sent bills to Reagan that he could veto to earn back popularity points. Hence, I thought you were saying that Congress was sending this piece of legislation to Bush* only so he could veto it and earn the popularity points.

Tonight I'll make getting more sleep a priority. ;)

[JetCityLiberal]

68. Think this might be the Vote breakdown/tally by name

not sure.

Link: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00044


Looks like my 2 voted NO thank goodness.

JetCityLiberal

[HootieMcBoob]

71. This is absolutely disgusting

I feel like we've been stabbed in the back :puke: