Santorum- The Tom Daschle of 2006?

[SixShooter]

When Thune began gaining momentum in SD I had that sinking sick feeling in the bottom of my stomach that Daschle wouldnt make it back to the Senate...the way everything played out was like a nightmare...now it seems it is playing out in the opposite fashion...the stars are definitely aligning for a potential toppling of Santorum in 2006, which would be absolutely beyond HUGE for us. We CANNOT afford to take anything for granted! This is a must win seat for us....many RePUKES need to be targetted but it all starts with ole' Santorum..

Do you fully support/think most D's will fully support Casey despite his position regarding abortion?

And also, what affect will Lynn Swann have on this race?

As for me, I will send $ and do everything I can (albeit from down here in FL) to get Santorum out.

[rkc3]

1. Dammit Six, don't remind me that Swann can have an impact on this

race.

Hopefully, fucktorum will be making his rounds through the state and show us all what a pig he truly is - and no amount of Lynn Swann's charm will save him.

[SixShooter]

2. Im of the belief that

The more he keeps walking around the state running his trap, the more votes he loses..

I also hear that some of the archconservatives are still farily upset at him selling them out and supporting Specter...

[rkc3]

4. My thoughts too -

let the idiot screw himself with his own stupidity.

Even though some may be mad over his support for Specter, it's not likely they would support a Dem or even another repub over him.

[Mandate My Ass]

3. Swann was throwing his hat in the ring for governor

challenging Rendell, IIRC.

[Divernan]

6. Swann recently trashed for taking money from junk food industry.

Swann accepted commercial endorsement from the vending machine industry (those purveyors of junk food in the nation's schools & elsewhere). In January of 2005, the Center for
Science in the Public Interest urged Bush to fire Swann as chair of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports.

www.corporatecrimereporter.com/resign011305.htm

The Center suggested that as a shill for the junk food industry, Swann should be chair of something like Jocks for Junk Food. Swann's bio shows him to have focused on being appointed to national committees where he could get good PR. Compare him to a good hearted Steeler like Franco Harris who has always been there to generously give his time and efforts to help out in the Pittsburgh area, often with no publicity at all. In other words, it would be easy for Bobby Casey to neutralize Swann with other athletic stars.

[Rooktoven]

5. Not in PA, but I'm right across the river--

And if you want a real progressive candidate, not a DINO like Casey, throw your support to Chuck Pennacchio. http://www.chuck2006.com

Casey's all but been annointed by the Rendell crew. It shouldn't be that easy. I don't hold to the belief that only Casey can beat Senator Man-on-dog.

[Divernan]

7. Ego & ambition, even combined with good intentions are not enough.

Running for the United States Senate as one's first elected office to me indicates someone who is absolutely clueless about the responsibilities of office. You don't learn that by working on a friend's campaign. You learn that by slogging through and analyzing the myriad issues and areas of legislation which cross the desk of an elected official. Casey and his similarly long term, experienced staff, are intimately familiar with the arcane details of every domestic issue in the United States, from a to z. Not only that, Casey has performed superbly as State Treasurer and State Auditor. Your guy got a Ph.D in what, history of diplomacy? Well, that was about 20 years ago, and as we see from Condoleeza Rice's efforts to cram everything into the Soviet mold of her outdated PH.D., it's a vastly different world and those old Ph.D's aren't applicable. And you can't get away from the value of name recognition. I've worked in PA politics for the past 10 years, and never heard of your guy. The only way a totally inexperienced guy like Swarznegger won, was his total name recognition and the big bucks from the GOP. If your guy really wants to be in politics, he can start out runnning for state rep or state senator.

[mdguss]

8. Casey, Casey, Casey!

A great record in Pennsylvania. A good Democrat who would make a great Senator. Casey's the guy to be Santorum.

A large percentage of Pennsylvania Democrats are pro-life, so Casey's pro-life position doesn't hurt him...actually it probably helps him.

[Mandate My Ass]

9. Um, I think you're projecting

"A large percentage of Pennsylvania Democrats are pro-life,"

Says who?

[mdguss]

12. 2000 primary results:

Pro-life candidate Ron Klink won against two pro-choice candidates. Klink got 53% of the vote. Except for Rendell, no pro-choice Democrat has won a statewide election in Pennsylvania since Roe.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

17. Hmmm...more pro-choice Republicans than Dems in PA....

We've had more than a few statewide pro-choice Republicans at the Governor and US Senate level.

Is it just possible that we supposedly "extinct" Rockefeller Republicans do more to keep PA blue at the Presidential level than we get credit for? We always vote in Presidential races but not always in the off years...again, the motivation factor.

[Mandate My Ass]

18. Ridge was pro-choice

A pro-choice republican wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell if Dems cross over to vote against choice and republicans always vote anti-choice.

Klink lost to Santorum by the way. Why is it being rammed down our throats that only an anti-choice person can beat Santorum when it failed last time?

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

19. Ridge, Heinz, Thornburgh, and Specter...all pro-choice Repubs

We all know the Penn-syl-tucky red center of the state votes/loves a Ricky type regressive but the population centers around Phila/Pittsburgh have a lot of Catholic Democrats and a lot of Rockefeller Republicans...now, who are the voters that keep putting pro-choice Republicans in office in PA.

My hope is that Ricky gets a good challenger in the Republican primary who has their own money source/name recognition to REALLY make this interesting. I know the GOP machine will be full-tilt for the man-on-dog candidate but I can still dream of having a choice can't I?!?!?!:silly:

[Mandate My Ass]

20. You know who I'm hoping for...

I think she could whip Ricky's pasty white buttocks back to Penn Hills or wherever it was he was ripping off the taxpayers for his kids' fundy school.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

10. If I can suck it up....

and vote for Casey (assuming he wins the Dem primary), I imagine almost anyone can. Ol' Ricky man-on-dog MUST go...I repeat, he MUST go. If that means I have to vote for an anti-choice, fiscal liberal to obtain that goal, well, so be it.

I won't make voting for anti-choice/fiscal liberals a habit for the future but, getting our current mean-spirited, arrogant, hypocritical Senator out of PA is just far too important to me.

I know I will have a tough time motivating other 'Rockefeller Republicans' (social liberal/fiscal conservative) types to even bother voting here in PA in 2006 but I will do my best to help Casey win this one by reinforcing Ricky's EXTREME positions/statements/votes and his theft of Penn Hill's tax money.

[mdguss]

11. The theory is the mod Repubs will vote Rendell/Casey:

And the blue-collar Dems will vote Casey/Rendell. Quite a ticket when you think about it. It can appeal to a very large percentage of Pennsylvania voters.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

13. Do you mean with a straight party ticket vote?

With Rendell as the motivation for the moderates and Casey for the Catholic Dems?

I don't know, that may be true. I can only go by my social contacts and circle of influence where the Casey name is not a big selling point for the Rockefeller Republicans, but the Santorum name evokes violent opposition/disgust. Few of us in this group EVER vote straight party ticket...we pick-and-choose across all party lines.

[mdguss]

15. Rendell will aid Casey and vice versa:

Rendell, who presumably, is liked by the Rockefeller Republican types, will help convince them to vote for Casey. Casey, who is liked by blue-collar union types, will help convince people to vote for Rendell.

Rendell will be the motivation for voting, but they'll vote for Casey too because Rendell says you can trust this guy. Casey will be the motivation for voting for the blue collar people, but they'll vote for Rendell because Casey says you can trust this guy.

Down the ballot, people will probably split their ticket, but at the top, it's a very, very good ticket.

[LittleClarkie]

14. What was that I heard re: Hillary and Santorum on the same stage yesterday

Yeah, I heard it from Rush. So sue me.

But what the hell was she doing talking about standards in the media with that shmuck?

[mdguss]

16. Kerry 2008!

nt.