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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:26 PM
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Venturing into Sheepleland - Chimpy comes to Louisville
Oh, Lordy, I feel so slimed. Never, never again will I waste time going to hear King Chimpy say one word.

Just a little background, I had the pleasure of attending a conference in DC several years back during the Clinton administration. President Clinton came and spoke as a keynote speaker during one of our weeklong meetings. The crowd was, by a significant majority, Republican (75%?). Clinton spoke to issues, gave his opinions, backed them up with facts, figures, solutions and reasons. He was concise, articulate and profound. He had concrete plans and was prepared to discuss them fully. He had the group eating out of the palm of his hand and got a standing ovation by the entire room when he was finished. By the way – one of the main issues at this conference were private accounts for Social Security. Repugs pushing it hard even back then, Clinton has reservations. (I’ll never forget – a state big wig with the GOP was also serving as a delegate – hated Clinton with a purple passion – throwing her napkin after the speech and said, “Well, I’ll be damned, the son of a bitch is going to get re-elected!”) This was in ’95 when Clinton was having trouble after the 94 mid-terms. She was so pissed! Enough history.

Today, I went to hear another president speak. The security issues were exponentially much greater. (Be afraid; be very afraid of your constituents!) The wait long and hot, show ID, walk through metal detector but finally got into the hall to hear what this guy had to say. As it turns out, Chimpy had nothing to say. Nothing except to blame the Dems for every problem that ever existed. He didn’t call them Dems by name but it was clear to everyone in the room this was going to be another slime fest. And they loved it. Hell, they LIVE for it!

There were several people yelling out protests but they were escorted out of the hall quickly (three different times!) and the crowd then got the message it was their job to shout down the opposition. And like sheeple, they obeyed their brain dead master. Honestly, there was a contingency of people in groups around the room that started every episode of cheering and standing up clapping. I pretty sure there were plants throughout the audience to make sure he got his obligatory “love fest” from his sheeple. Three hundred people protested outside but I didn’t see anything but a few signs, etc.

For the vast majority of the speech he did not talk about Social Security although that was the “advertised” subject. He pandered to the local politicians – Ann Northup (gag!), he told her sons to obey their “Mama,” “I still mind mine.” The crowd loved “yokelisms.” (Couldn’t help but wonder how many in the room would wish that their child grow up to be a mass murder.) He recognized the poor hapless souls that ended up sitting on the stage with him. More sheeple – only to the 10th power.

Whined about needing an energy policy but “Congress” wouldn’t pass one. Talked about freedom – “amazing time.” Assume he was talking about Iraq or someplace besides the US. Then he felt the need to define “cash deficits” – “more money going out than coming in.” Now I’m wondering if he is lost and thinks he is talking to a third grade class. Upon reflection, this crowd probably did need the definition.

Tried to talk basketball to some coed on stage. Cleared up the matter that she was spending time at the game this afternoon instead of the library. (Insert lame laugh here.) And drug out two grandfathers and their granddaughters to say how much they want Chimpy’s Social Security plan to pass. Of course, none of them could say WHY they support a plan that does not exist.

He belittled some University of Illinois wonk with a PhD who was there to say Chimpy was right. Never did say WHAT he was right about – but he is right. Period. Right. Always right. Social Security going broke by 2018 – broke, broke, broke. Chimpy is right. Chimpy bragged, again, about being a poor student and he was president and the other guy with the PhD wasn’t. Nah, nah, nah. Smirk, giggle, smirk again. Classless, clueless boob, as usual.

He spent a lot of time throwing out terms that must be on the talking points sheet this week. The Dems are now the people that don’t think Americans are capable of being part of the “Investor Class” and Dems are playing “Generational Politics.” (Hence the grandpas and the girlies on stage – isn’t that “Generational Politics?) Kept saying that all possibilities are open to discussion but the Dems won’t discuss all options. He did throw out the figure that if “young people” (didn’t define the age) could invest just 4% (of what?) that “over time” (any clues to how long THAT would be?) would earn $250,000 extra for their retirement. The crowd loved those figures – wild applause. (Think he was using minimum wage figures to amass that fortune?) Main message I took from this silly exercise – Chimpy doesn’t have a plan, not going to discuss a plan but the Dems are obstructionists. Oh, and be afraid. The Dems are going to make sure you a poor in your old age – because Social Security is going broke.

I did not stand up and yell, I did not boo. I was not escorted out under armed guard. And that will forever be my shame to bear. Several times I wanted to but honestly, but I chickened out. Of course, I did get a lot of dirty looks for not standing, cheering or clapping. One of the people I got a ticket for did yell and got taken out so maybe I did contribute in a very small way. If I had it to do over, I would never bother going to hear this “moran” speak again. My time and efforts could have been much better spent outside with the real patriots. Now THEY had a message.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:32 PM
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1. Thanks for the report
I followed your earlier thread and wondered how this would play out.

This guy is absolutely frightening.....his "sheeple support" is equally frightening....
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 06:39 PM
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31. I think his sheeple support is MORE frightening
Think about it: he's doing what politicians do - pander, whine about opposition and name-call.
They are buying into the shit, with the help of the media, and approving of selling their children into the poor house.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:34 PM
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2. I am so sorry you had to endure that.
How many years of therapy will you need?
A lifetime probably wouldn't be enough for me.
You are not chicken, the fact that you went into the sheeple's lair to witness the destruction of free speech so that you could let us know what's going on is a HUGE contribution to the cause.
Thank you.
:toast:
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:48 PM
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3. "Courage"....to quote Dan Rather
That's what it took for you to suffer through that. Good description of the event/sheeple but HOW DID YOU KEEP FROM YACKING???? I rate that a 5 puker. :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:56 PM
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4. Hope you took a nice long shower to get the slime of Chimpy
off your body but how can you ever get his voice out of your mind and the putrid sight of him out of your retinas???

Looks like Das Fuhrer has his little Nazis infiltrating every audience he faces. It was nice to hear an honest perspective of his
appearance.

Maybe some biofeedback will rid you of the aftertaste of this day.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:27 PM
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5. thank you
for enduring this and reporting it. The thing is if you would of shouted and gotten thrown out we wouldn't have a full report, right?!

I say you did what you could that's a good thing besides the one person you gave a ticket to shouted out for you and for all of us! You have no shame to bear!

If no one reports from our side of the isle how will we know what's going on? Forget about the 'corporatista media' reporting we all know how that's Not working!

Your undercover reporting work is just as patriotic as the persons who got thrown out.
It's a good thing that people like you are here for us!! Some shout out with their voices others with the pen as you've done.

About those people that you thought where plants. Wouldn't it be interesting for someone to watch for this at each of these stops * is making and follow up on the 'plant people' pictures, interviews, you get the jest of where I'm going with this idea.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 04:47 PM
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6. People would probably have cheered
if he yelled, "Let's kill at the democrats!!" This is what we have come to. Have no shame - you are not the shameful one.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 04:53 PM
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7. Thank you
For exercising your freedom to sit in an audience and send bad vibes at the Resident. Furthermore, thanks for being brave enough to give a ticket to someone who was in turn brave enough to heckle the Chimperor.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 05:22 PM
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8. WAVE 3's website has links to the video of his propaganda
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 05:25 PM by Roland99
I'm at 13:10 into the video and he JUST NOW started mentioning Social Security. That FDR was great for creating it but that the dynamics have changed.


Did you stick around afterward and see if the shills were herded off to their buses?


Oh, what a BULLSHIT line!

"I believe when you have a problem you it instead of passing it on to future presidents"

Oh, so Iraq is going to be magically cured by 2008? The budget deficit will be in surplus by 2008?

What a lying sack of shit!
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 05:26 PM
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9. Your brave, I could not have sat through it. I can't stand watching
him on TV.I would probably not fit in with the crowd either.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 05:28 PM
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10. But that's what we SHOULD do!! Can imagine if only Dems grabbed tickets?
Bush wouldn't have his ready-made audience!

Imagine if dissenters gobbled up the tickets from their local GOP offices. Use subversive means and fill up this 60-day, 60-city tour with THINKING people instead of the bused-in sheep. Demand true dialogue from the Propagandist!

Either he'd start answering real questions or end the tour. Either way, we win!
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 05:54 PM
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11. That would be sweet.We should take a lesson from some of
these other countries being touted as new democracies and overthrow this regime.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 06:31 PM
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12. Thank you for that report you brave soul - how did you get
tickets??
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 06:44 PM
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14. I took a shot and called my repug Senator. Gave them a BS line
that I was concerned about Social Security and that some of my friends and I would love to hear what the president had to say. Kept all smirks, remarks and eye rolls to myself during the process. They called yesterday and said they had four tickets for me. Was very shocked.

I would like to encourage everyone who lives anywhere near where the "Chimp and Liars Road Show" is appearing to try and get tickets. Just getting in the door and having even a small protest is very satisfying. On the local news tonight the protests inside the hall and the march outside were more news than what the Chimp had to say. Even the media is getting tired of his dog and pony show. Would love to see us pack the halls with increasingly hostile audiences. Maybe set a goal to see how fast we can get this little tour canceled.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 06:48 PM
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15. Think I'll try that next time the chimpster comes to Ohio
Thanks and I'll pass the word on to other chimp despisers!! We'll be waiting and watching for the next "visit"!! Everyone should try to get tickets for a chimp "speach"!! May be the only way to get our voices heard!! It'll be worth an arrest!!!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 06:32 PM
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13. "One of the people I got a ticket for did yell and got taken out "
Yes you DID! That is awesome that you snuck a dissenter into the hall! Way to go!

:yourock:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 07:02 PM
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16. I honestly don't know how he can get away with that bullshit
he wants a good energy policy, but Congress won't pass it?

Hello! Congress is your rubber stamp. Its dominated by Republicans and just enough "New Democrats" (one of whom I voted for because I didn't think anyone could be more of a douchebag than my former Rep) for Bush to pass any plan he wants.

If he has trouble passing something, it can only be for one of two reasons:

Its so terribly unpopular that even some lockstep Republicans won't vote for it,

or

Its all bullshit rhetoric, and he lacks a fully developed plan to present to Congress.


Generically blaming Congress when your party controls both houses is not only pathetic and irresponsible, but its also an outright lie.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 07:25 PM
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17. Excellent report - Felt like I was there ! You captured it perfectly
It is so scary -- but I have a feeling things are turning, don't you? I mean what is the average IQ in the country? There couldn't be that many morons, could there?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 07:25 PM
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18. Excellent report - Felt like I was there ! You captured it perfectly
It is so scary -- but I have a feeling things are turning, don't you? I mean what is the average IQ in the country? There couldn't be that many morons, could there?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 07:59 PM
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19. What a bunch of suckers... Investor class? just like everybody daytrading
in the eighties. Just like all the people's who 401Ks simultaneously tanked.
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fiddlestix Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:41 PM
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20. Didja shower afterwards? Brush teeth?
Honestly, I don't know how you did it, how you sat throught the whole thing...

I work in a hospital in NYC, and I was sitting in our lunch-room sifting through my co-workers' newspapers...and without warning, my eyes were filled with *'s grinning face...on the front cover of the NY Post (what else?). No one else was present in the lunch-room & I could not stop myself from defacing my co-worker's newspaper, turning that mug into a lovely Groucho Marx. There were no witnesses to my crime, but everyone knew who had done the Deed.

Silence=Death
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:51 PM
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21. Damn how did you do that? If I so much as hear his voice,
I run to turn the TV/radio off ASAP. I honestly can't stand the sound. My hands start shaking and my heart rate increases.

I admire you for just having the courage and ability to SIT there. :)
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:29 PM
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22. Well, the rest of us do need to know stuff like this
So I'm glad you were able to stick it out and let us know what happened.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:03 PM
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23. Oh Please don't make me go in the dark damp basement with
all the monsters and creepy crawly things...I'll do anything else, anything you want, I'll even watch O'Reilly for ten minutes if you insist, but Please don't make me do this. I'm not courageous like Dan Rather advises me to be.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:15 PM
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24. Why bother reading the NYT account at midnight....
...when I now feel I was in the room?

Great recount. Inspires me to work harder in the mid-terms.

:yourock:
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:49 PM
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25. "Official" photos
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 09:27 AM
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27. [evil cackle] "Just wait until I get my hands on your money!"
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 06:36 PM
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30. Ya know - I've often wondered - what's wrong with his teeth??
they look like they are half rotten; they are dark yellow (almost black)!! Ya think maybe he does too much coke, alcohol, pot, zoloft? Could that be the problem??
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:30 AM
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32. He drinks a lot of coffee...or so I've heard/read
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distressedsister Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:54 PM
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26. Here IS Amateur Video of Protestors
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 12:04 PM
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33. FANTASTIC SITE!!!!!
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distressedsister Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 05:16 PM
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28. Standing Outside is Better - If The Police Respect Free Speech
Bush held one of his totally fake meetings here, too. Take a look at the video posted to this site. I shot it outside the Westfield Armory (very far outside, but just beyond the closest police barricade) from the center of our protest there 1 week ago. The police shut us down and treated like a HUGE threat. Our "pod" of only 150 people or so was forcibly dispersed just as the prescreened Bushies exited and began to circulate among the police! Please take a look. 9 people were arrested, 4 of which are captured on this video. Charges are pending and the arrested people need our support! Pass this on, please.

http://www.seedsofdoubt.com/distressedamerican/main.htm
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 06:00 PM
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29. Anyone remember when it was still an honor to see the POTUS speak? nt
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