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heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:04 AM
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Explain to me why Bush is taking credit for Lebanon?
What did he have to do with the situation in Lebanon besides "order"
the Syrians to leave after the assasination?

Is taking credit for Lebanon a diversion from how badly things are going in Iraq?

I don't get it - It makes me sick now that people are trying to spin that Bush is creating democracy in the Middle East. The "maybe Bush was right" philosophy is now gaining momentum and I can't stomach that thought.

So now he is taking credit for Lebanon, the Palestinian elections and other situations that he had nothing to do with. Wouldn't Arafat's timely death be more of a catalyst for this?

Help me, I refuse to give credit for anything.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:06 AM
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1. because he takes credit for anything they think will give him a boost
and no responsibility for anything negative.

its how they do.

hey did you see how the moon didnt fall out of orbit and destroy us? thank god bush is prez....
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:33 AM
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25. But it's expected
that he'll take credit for anything good happening anywhere in the world.

Any half wit politician would do that, and certainly he has to make his unjustifiable war that has costed thousands of lives and billions of dollars, seem like it was worth it.

What pisses me off is that the media is bending over backwards to give him credit.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 04:36 AM
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27. his social insecurity plan is tanking his numbers on the domestic side
and with the shooting of the Italian in Iraq, his numbers are dropping on the foreign issues

sooooo--he has get a "spin" on something -- Lebanon/Syria provides the perfect "photo op". Meanwhile, the blather about Iraq moving WMDs into Syria prior to the invasion is cropping up again, which shifts the spin back to "terra"

Won't be long before we have a "terra-lert" issued for the Friday afternoon spews-dump

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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:09 AM
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2. This is why (f'ing great OpEd):
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heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:57 AM
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14. Thanks for posting this link
I've bookmarked it and will use it in further arguments with my idiot acquaintances who are now singing the praises of Jesus W. Bush.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:44 AM
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16. "If genuine democracy breaks out, Bush might not like it."
From the OpEd you posted.

It does explain matters quite well!!!

Thanks for posting it!

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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:45 AM
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17. You know how true that is w/r/t Iraq. Or HERE, for that matter.... nt
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:11 AM
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3. Wants the World to think he's a bad ass...
He's given up on the lofty goal of really being a Uniter,he knows outside of the fools in the US that voted for him the rest of the World hates his fucking guts.

So..what to do? Keep the War machine rolling and keep up the bully of the World image. When anything happens anywhere FOX can tell their idiot viewers that Bush made them kowtow or they would be dealt with one by one.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:12 AM
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4. "What did he have to do with the situation in Lebanon besides 'order'
. . . the assassination."

There's your answer.

:evilgrin:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:14 AM
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5. Theory was that invading Iraq would be a magic charm
Therefore he can claim a mystical relationship between anything good that happens and his acts. It's just MAGIC. You can't see how it did it.

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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:25 AM
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6. edit: oops, a day late and a dollar short
Edited on Wed Mar-09-05 09:26 AM by Dufaeth
:)
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:32 AM
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7. Why not give him credit?
He is going to take credit for the "Second Coming of Christ."
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:34 AM
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8. Is he going to take credit for the next Lebanese civil war?
Will Americans troops have to go in to maintain order?

Will we have another Iraq in Lebanon?

Who will get "credit" for all of this?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:34 AM
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9. except if things go bad....
then it will be the Democrats fault for not supporting his ideas...
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:37 AM
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10. didn't Poppy take credit for the fall of the Berlin wall and communism?
Edited on Wed Mar-09-05 09:38 AM by flordehinojos
old Prescott took credit (but later confessed) that he had been decorated with the purple heart for some heroic action in WWI which never occurred and which embarrassed him and his family to the point that he had to move to another town.

They (the bushes) take credit for a lot which does not properly belong to them ... they are, after all, usurpers. they also like to blame a lot, for a lot that they should take responsibility for.

nothing new.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 03:26 PM
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22. I don't know I thought they gave it to Reagan
Great liberator of mankind.

No, the people that actually lived through years of totalitarinism had nothing to do with their fate. It was all Bonzo's doing.

Gee-they ever think that history moves along whether there is a Republican idiot in the White House or not? No, it's all their doing.

Americans, like God, get all credit for good and none of the bad.

Tsunami=God just busy.

One child cured from cancer=God is wonderful!

Same deal, I think.

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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 05:34 PM
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23. I think they may have at some point given the credit to Reagan--but POPPY
made sure he got some of the credit too...
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:43 AM
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11. because he ordered the ASSASSINATION of Syria's prime minister!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:45 AM
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12. Because all in this country who only read headlines
or only listen to Rush and Fox,will think he is the haloed saviour who brought democracy and freedom to the middle east. At last, at last, we have conquored the infidels with Bush's holy bloody crusade.

Further, they will also likely to be making a list in their minds of the "enemies" as Bush and Condi go about making ugly faces at anyone and everyone and included so far,besides Iran and
Syria, although maybe not as firmly set, are the big guys, Russia and China--you know--they connect it to athiest commies--and I heard numerous accusations of "communist" being bandied about re Kerry during the campaign from these types to suspect that connection may very well be made.

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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:49 AM
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13. It is "post hoc ergo propter hoc"
Edited on Wed Mar-09-05 09:49 AM by NewHampshireDem
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/posthoc.htm

Definition:
The name in Latin means "after this therefore because of this".
This describes the fallacy. An author commits the fallacy when
it is assumed that because one thing follows another that the
one thing was caused by the other.

Examples:
(i) Immigration to Alberta from Ontario increased. Soon
after, the welfare rolls increased. Therefore, the increased
immigration caused the increased welfare rolls.
(ii) I took EZ-No-Cold, and two days later, my cold
disappeared.


Proof:
Show that the correlation is coincidental by showing that: (i)
the effect would have occurred even if the cause did not
occur, or (ii) that the effect was caused by something other
than the suggested cause.

References
(Cedarblom and Paulsen: 237, Copi and Cohen: 101)


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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:17 AM
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15. A lot of Lebanese blame the US for the bombing
And most despise AWOL and warn the US not to interfere. And anyways, didn't Reagan/Bush I tacitly ALLOW Syria to occupy Lebabnon?
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 02:51 PM
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18. Because he can.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 03:00 PM
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19. The same reason he'll take credit for "Iran" and took credit for "Libya"
Edited on Wed Mar-09-05 03:00 PM by John_H
He'll claim that, like libya syria and iran, "caved" because chimp proved he means business by invading Iraq.

There will be no invasion of Iran folks. Chimp will either let the international community negotiate a settlement w/ iran then take credit or secretly buy them off and then attribute it to fear of an iraq-like invasion.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 03:17 PM
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20. Who's going to call his bluff? us?
Bush had nothing to do with it, just like Reagan and Poppy had nothing to do with the fall of communism. It just makes me want to :puke:

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 03:23 PM
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21. He can say what he wants and lie all he wants -
Edited on Wed Mar-09-05 03:23 PM by sparosnare
no one holds him accountable. The media isn't doing it's job and the American people remain silent.

Imagine what you could get away with if no one called you on it.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 08:54 PM
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24. All things in the world that are good are his doing, all things that are
bad are the Democrats doing. He projects his considerable 'baser instincts' onto his enemies. He takes responsibility for none of this mistakes but all of the luck & successes.

New Rules!!
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:39 AM
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26. Maybe because he hasn't seen this picture
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 02:40 AM by cestpaspossible



After all, he doesn't read the papers, and the sycophants around him won't tell him any bad news. He's probably not even aware that Hezbollah staged a demonstration.

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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 06:52 AM
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28. Because Freedom's on the march
Didn't you get the memo?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 07:10 AM
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29. I've heard people give Bush credit for Arafat's death
"Under Bush, Saddam and Arafat are gone".

Oh, you mean Bush had Arafat killed?


Republicans will give credit to their pathetic figureheads for anything that goes right anywhere in the world.
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