Feinstein voted against cloture which means she will probably vote against

[flpoljunkie]

the bankruptcy bill. Democrats voting FOR cloture, so far: BIDEN, JOHNSON, LIEBERMAN, LINCOLN, and BYRD.

Add SALAZAR, CARPER, AND NELSON (Nebraska) and NELSON (Florida), PRYOR, CONRAD, and LANDRIEU.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. Why the HELL is Byrd voting for this bill???

[ProgressiveConn]

2. Once again Joementum screws us.

People... Click on the link below and pledge money so someone runs against him in 2006.

[Discord]

3. Carper voted for cloture...

[Emboldened Chimp]

4. Don't let her fool you....

She did the same thing with the Iraq vote and look what happened there.

[housewolf]

5. Votes for cloture

This is important... a vote for cloture is not a vote for a bill, it is a vote to vote on a bill.

So Dems voting aye are voting to vote on the bill, not voting on the bill per se. If the cloture vote fails, the bill can either be fillibustered or shelved.

I did hear them say that Byrd voted aye, disappointing yes but Sen. Byrd has often voted for cloture on bills that he wants to vote against so that he has an opportunity to record his vote.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

6. Damn!!! If cloture fails, then a fillibuster is mounted and the...

bill dies.

:eyes:

What is Byrd doing?

[flpoljunkie]

8. The vote is not even close on cloture. Many more YES votes.

[flpoljunkie]

7. True. Let's see how many YES on cloture are NO votes on passage.

Traditionally a YES vote on cloture is a YES vote on the impending bill, but not always, of course. Let's hope this is the case with Byrd.

Otherwise, there are a lot of Dems on my shit list.

[Dr.Phool]

9. Bill Nelson just lost my vote next year.

And I don't give a flying fuck if Kathrine Harris is running against him!!

I'm tired of supporting Dems who stab us in the back.

[flpoljunkie]

12. Let's wait and see if he votes for the actual bill. If so, I agree. If

Democrats can't stand up to the banks and credit card companies and vote against this still egregiously one-sided bill, what is really to distinguish them from Republicans?

[Discord]

10. cloture passes...

[hopein08]

11. She said she's voting against the Bankruptcy Bill...

I didn't watch her speech but my mom told me that Feinstein said that she had voted for it in committee on the promise of bipartisanship when it came to working out the final details. She said that there had not been any bipartisanship on the part of the Republicans as amendment after amendment put up by the Democrats was voted down, therefore she will vote against the final bill.

[flpoljunkie]

13. Thanks for this clarification. Thought so, but was not listening closely

to her speech on the Senate floor. Good for her!

[Mandate My Ass]

15. on the promise of bipartisanship? Holy crap

When in the last five years have republicans ever acted in a bipartisan manner?

[Ian David]

17. Don't forget, the banks "accidentally" lost congress' credit information

Who know what these banks have on who.

[x_y_no]

14. NELSON (Florida)

Now that's a real disappointment. I thought he was going to stand up for what's right.

:-(

[housewolf]

16. When is the vote? Did they say? n/t

[flpoljunkie]

18. I think it is coming after after a couple of morning business speeches.

Senator Durbin is on the floor now giving a "barn burner" of a speech against this bill.