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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 10:29 AM
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The Curtain's Rising--Where the Hell are the Democrats???
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 10:31 AM by DemocracyInaction
I hate to wake up our Dem politicians but the Bush agenda right now is heavily centered around the DOMESTIC. We blow the Repubs out of their socks in polls when it comes to "the domestic" and they blow ours off when the issue is war/terrorism/moral shitsola. If you don't go out and dance and sing when the band is playing your song and the spotlight is on, you can't expect to walk away with the award for "Best Peformance by a Political Party". We seem to have the philosopy in this party that it isn't worth raising hell until an election year. The Repubs raise hell all the time and bury us in the process. Now that SS and consumption tax (along with other ideas they have on rewriting the tax code to screw us)are being brought forth by the Repubs, it's our time to blast forward as a united party voice and get it through the heads of the American people just who is trying to screw them AND present our ideas. They can't wait until '06 and point back and whine when no one is listening.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 10:57 AM
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1. What, after watching the Democratic performance of the past five years
You're still expecting them to grow a backbone, stand up, and fight? After caving on the IWR, the Patriot Act, the prescription drug bill, NCLB, and many many more, what makes you think that they're going to mount an serious opposition now? Sure, sure, there will be a few outspoken people, some polite lipservice paid to traditional Democratic/liberal values, but when push comes to shove, corporate cash will always trump will of the people, everytime.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:13 AM
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2. Don't debate the issues....debate the insanity of those that would ...
propose such garbage. Attack your opponent. So what if we defeat one issue or another if they are still around to bring it back up whenever they wish. Make it our goal to get rid of the Republicans.
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:23 AM
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4. kentuck--exactly. That is why I think that '06 should be
a 'national' campaign instead of 'individual' House and Senate campaigns as is usually done. The cry has to be (started now) to look at these slimy Repbulicans and how they are attacking all the foundations middle class America needs to even remotely survive. And then bluntly tell Americans that it will continue and get worse unless they do two things: 1) remove all repubs running for re-election in '06 and replace with Dems and 2) remove the Repubs from the White House in '08 or nothing will be accomplished. THEN, promise the American people they will protect these financial aspects of their lives that are so under attack and start making the rich and the corporations participate in this nations well being and future. This has to be an attack on ALL repbulicans just like the one launced successfully against us in 1994.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 12:19 PM
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10. I agree....
We get distracted in our oppposition to Dubya. But Dubya will be gone and the Repubs will still be there to continue their crusade. We must make it a "national" campaign if we are to be successful. Bush has promised the Republicans safe cover if they will support his SS deform act, by taking all the blame himself. We cannot let that happen.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:14 AM
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3. Waiting for the K street lobbyists to pass out Easter treats.
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 11:19 AM by Skidmore
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:24 AM
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5. Hard to do when
so many Democrats are unsure about whether being a Democrat is a good idea. They seem to feel that modeling themselves after Republicans is the only winning formula.

For that reason I could never support Clinton or Kerry, who still trumpet past strategies to deal with the blowback created by those same startegies in the present.
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2diagnosis Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:42 AM
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6. That's the problem- presenting our ideas.
Right now the attack is on against the pugs; but I want to hear our ideas, the ones the people want, presented.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:52 AM
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8. I suggested on another thread earlier today that
Howard Dean call a massive meet-up for the Democratic party ASAP--a weekend of conferences and rallies and forums. Hold it somewhere that the press can't ignore--a major city centrally located so the average person doesn't have to migrate acroos the entire country to get to the either DC or NY. How about giving Chicago or St. Louis some action? Take this to the heartland. It should be something on the order of what Tavis Smiley does every year (actually, an annual event would provide some continuity and cohesiveness at a time when the party is perceived of as unorganized). It needs to be associated with developing a document for the party to work from until the platform drafting process occurs during the 08 election year. People are only hearing the reverberations of the RW echo chamber. We need some actions steps--translate our own musings into a larger message. This could be used get out the principles the party stands for and to kick off coordinated local efforts as well.

Someone else suggested 50 statewide meet-ups. At any rate, it would help everyone get on the same page and meet-ups can be put together at a moment's notice for local groups, just set a date and tell people be there. Dammit. We need action. And get some of these *#$&(@&$ politicians there to PARTICIPATE and NOT just make speeches and leave.
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Acryliccalico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:48 AM
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7. Seems to me
that most Dems are waiting for * to set the rules so they can try to live around or opposed them. I am getting very tired of responding instead of leading. I would be willing to stand up and fight to the death for any one of our values ( we have more than the repubs do) if I could find one Dem that had passion, determination and leadership. I guess I am looking for someone that wants to "take back our country." IMHO :kick:
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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 12:06 PM
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9. It's the Dem's who live in Red states...
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 12:07 PM by Discord
That need to rally, gather support and get on the asses of thier Repug politicians. Write letters to them, write thier papers LTTE sections, talk to thier friends and family and co-workers. make sure they understand in plain english what these proposals really mean and how it could impact thier lives. sad fact is that the Repugs have control over congress and the executive branch. and the nominations to the judiciary is an attempt to get that branch under thier control as well. Only by getting to some of the repug voters to understand the real nature of thier parties agenda and by putting pressure on thier representitives by letting them know flatly thier is also a strong opposition in thier constituancy, can we have a chance of protecting our country and its people. One thought I had was actually quite simple, has been quietly used against us, but is very effective, is that Repug voters can oppose a Repug bill without defecting parties. Then you are not facing them with a decision about defecting, but about understanding what these proposals are and not blindly following. Challenge thier knowledge... not thier loyalty.
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