"HRC is qualified for whatever she wants to do, but my man is John Kerry."

[flpoljunkie]

Senator Ted Kennedy on ABC's This Week.

[marcologico]

1. Wow. That's direct! :)

[flpoljunkie]

2. Very. And I am pleased to hear it from Kennedy.

[blogbear]

5. Liberalism

If that is what they mean by saying 'Liberal' then I'm glad to be liberal too!

[marcologico]

22. welcome blogbear!

:toast:

[lonestarnot]

3. She got more balls than Kerry, so I just can't decide who best! n/t

[marcologico]

4. Take a look at an anatomy chart, that might help you decide :)

[lonestarnot]

8. You think so? n/t

[marcologico]

21. as long as it's not in one of those abstinence-only books :)

[GetTheRightVote]

6. I vote Demo but would like Kerry next Hillary

:kick:

[flpoljunkie]

10. Pardon?

[globalvillage]

7. You da man, Ted. n/t

[stray cat]

9. Its nice to hear a straight opinion from any politician.

Ted Kennedy is a straight shooter and he didn't wait to do a poll to endorse Kerry. Good for him.

[Pepperbelly]

29. Give me a break ... he's John's homie.

What would you really expect?

[Discord]

51. Same state. Oh, I guess someone like TK

would never dream of endorsing the local guy publicly, even if not the BEST candidate. I mean, state demographics never play a part in it.

[FreedomAngel82]

38. Good for Kennedy

I'm with you. Hillary isn't horrible or anything and I'd support her but I want Kerry over her as well.

[wildmanj]

11. kerry

one scoop of kerry is all i can stand---if its not edwards or clark then i take a pass and look for some 3rd party to support----and that is a fact----no more voting for a candidate just because they happen to put dem by their name

[flpoljunkie]

12. I am not convinced Kerry lost in Ohio. Are you? Time to demand a media

recount of the vote in Ohio and impound the machines. If Bush had lost Ohio, the Rethugs would leave no stone unturned and the media would echo their every protest.

Christopher Hitchens has major questions abaout how the election was conducted and counted in Ohio, yet the media remains deafeningly silent.

Read Hitchens' article, Ohio's Odd Numbers here: http://www.makethemaccountable.com/articles/Ohio_s_Odd_Numbers.htm

[wildmanj]

15. lost

kerry either lost in ohio or he sure did give up easy---either way bush occupies the office that kerry was running for

[flpoljunkie]

16. And are you willing to go into 2008 with the same voting systems in place?

Let alone 2006. If we do not fix our voting systems to ensure our votes will be counted accurately, we might as well throw up our hands and surrender to the Rethugs.

Are there not lawsuits still going on in Ohio? I believe there is. Anyone out there have the skinny on their current status?

[wildmanj]

19. are u willing

the answer is no---we need a paper trail but unless some of our democratic leaders keeps this in front of the people every day through use of the halls of congress how are we as mere mortals to get organized----about decided we will have to hit the streets or forever hold our peace-----REPUBLICAN know how to use power---and what makes it all so sickening, we gave it to them

[flpoljunkie]

20. I agree. We must be willing to go into the streets to get this done.

[FreedomAngel82]

39. Are they still working on Ohio and others?

I don't think he lost either. Why else would Arnebeck, Cobb and Jackson would still be on this if it was for sure he lost?

[loudsue]

13. Too bad the black boxes stole your vote, Ted!

If Kerry really WAS your man, you'd be all over the black box voting issue, on behalf of ALL of us who voted for Kerry.

Why???? Why don't the boneheads in congress "get it"???

WE DON'T HAVE HONEST ELECTIONS IN THIS COUNTRY ANY LONGER!!!!

Until that problem is corrected, bush (or his chosen successor)is "our" man, no matter WAHT we might think we want!

:kick::kick::kick:

[flpoljunkie]

14. We must beat the drum for passage of The Count Every Vote Act of 2005

it will get nowhere unless we voters and constituents demand changes that will end voter suppression and ensure our votes will be counted and counted accurately.

[BoristheBewildered]

17. Besides, Kerry already has his concession speech down. Win or lose.

Sure. let's do it again - as by 2008 California will also be Ohio-Floridized.

[sadiesworld]

18. I hope you have been lurking long enough to know that your post

is bound to elicit some "strong" responses. Not from me though!
Welcome to DU :hi:

[politicasista]

23. I knew this was a Kerry bashing thread.

:mad: :puke: :puke:

[flpoljunkie]

26. Believe me, it was not meant to be, but there are those DUers who trash JK

at every opportunity.

[Discord]

52. don't misunderstand.

I have nothing against Kerry. I just don't support him in a second run as president. He has his shot and lost. NEXT

[dolstein]

24. Kennedy probably doesn't realize he just did Hillary a favor

With all due respect, getting an endorsement from Ted Kennedy doesn't exactly smooth the path to the White House. Ted Kennedy is beloved by many Democrats, but for much of the electorate (including many whose votes we need in the general election), he represents a brand of liberalism that has been thoroughly discredited. The Republicans would love nothing more than to portray Hillary Clinton as the ideological soulmate of Teddy Kennedy. Thanks Teddy for making it clear that she isn't.

[flpoljunkie]

25. Rather a soulmate of Ted Kennedy, than a soulmate of Al From and the DLC.

If I'm not mistaken, Al is smitten with Hillary's '08 prospects.

Don't those in the media who are salivating for HRC as the Democratic nominee, realize the base is not all that enamored of her? Of course, they do not care.

Touting her thrills the Republican base. Tweety, who has never had a kind word for Clinton, is already salivating at the prospect a Rice/Clinton race in '08.

[dolstein]

27. Speak for yourself, not the "base"

Sorry, but most of the people you consider the base haven't liked any of the Democratic Party's nominees in at least 30 years. Yet somehow, miraculously, all these candidates just somehow manage to get the party's nomination WITHOUT the support of your precious base.

[flpoljunkie]

28. Who do you consider to be the base, dolstein?

And if speaking up for the working man, labor rights, the environment, health care rights, women's rights, and civil rights, including gay rights, is what you called "liberal" and discredited, count me in.

Is this not what the Democratic party ought to stand for and stand up for?

[politicasista]

30. Good question

[robbedvoter]

32. I actually agree with you. I feel the primaries were a joke - as much

as the general elections. My vote was worthless twice.

[politicasista]

34. You're just mad cause your man didn't win

:mad: :mad: :grr: :grr:

[Crunchy Frog]

35. I'm mad because your man didn't win.

And I don't want to have to go through the whole song and dance yet again, only to end up with the exact same results.

We nominated Kerry to get the Chimp out of the White House. He failed. End of discussion.

[politicasista]

36. Who did you vote for in the primaries?

[Crunchy Frog]

44. Why is that any of your business?

If your'e really all that curious, you can do an advanced search on my name as I discuss it in numerous threads. Not that it mattered, as the nomination was already determined by the time I got to vote.

The important thing is that I actively supported the Kerry campaign with my time and money, and that's the first time that I've actively supported a presidential nominee apart from simply voting.

I really, really, wanted Kerry to beat Bush, and I was not happy that he failed to do it. I'm very sorry if you're bothered by my feeling that way.

[flpoljunkie]

37. We are not sure "our man" didn't win the election. Do you doubt the GOP

wouldn't hack into the computers they control, if need be, to return Dubya to the White House? I don't.

[Crunchy Frog]

41. Well, if he did win, all I can say is he's doing a lousy

job as President.

Really, I don't regard it as a win if the person doesn't end up actually assuming the office he was running for. Heck, we can rack up these sorts of wins for the next hundred years and never see a Dem in the White House.

And yes, I am concerned about Repuke use of fraud. I just wish that Kerry had been more concerned. This was definitely an issue that he needed to take into consideration if he was planning on seriously trying to get elected president.

[politicasista]

42. He was. The media NEVER reported it period.

Who did you vote for anyway?

[Crunchy Frog]

45. I voted for Kerry in the general election.

Why, who did you vote for? And whatever he did to address the voter fraud problem, it obviously was not enough.

[flpoljunkie]

49. Crunchy Frog, I believe there is a federal lawsuit still going on in Ohio

which involves the Kerry campaign.

Here is what I have found from http://www.votecobb.org/press/2005/mar/pr2005-03-02.php

Attorneys for Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb and Libertarian Party presidential candidate Michael Badnarik, who jointly requested the Ohio recount, have already filed their response to the Judge's question. Kerry and Edwards, through their Ohio attorney, filed a one sentence statement with the Judge supporting the Cobb and Badnarik position. Kerry's lawyer also filed a short, two page summary charting inconsistencies observed by Democratic Party witnesses to the recount.

The matter is pending in the Eastern Division of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio, before Judge Sargus.

[Crunchy Frog]

53. That's nice, I'm glad to hear about it

but it really doesn't address my concern, and it doesn't get Bush out of the White House.

What I really wish is that there had been some aggressive persuit of the issue while the Dems still held a majority in the Senate, after the 2000 theft. With the Repubs in complete control, it's hard to see what can be done to seriously address the issue. What you've described seems to me to be both too little and too late.

[karynnj]

31. Yay, Kennedy

The Senator who knows Kerry the longest and the best

[seaglass]

33. music to my ears - my two senators, a united force. n/t

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[politicasista]

43. Who do you suggest anyway?

:mad:

[blm]

46. Can you post excerpts from the article? Do you really know who you're

.talking about?

My guess is that you are referring to former Sen. Bob Kerrey and that you don't know enough to know the difference between the two men.

Anyone with an ounce of political acumen knows they are not the same man.

[karynnj]

48. Not John Kerry, but Bob Kerrey

Also, I don't know if those charges were true. There was a NYT magazine article about 3 years ago that made charges that Kerrey's men killed some non-combatants but if I remember right it was at night, there was confusion and reason to think they shot in fear and confusion. There was no resemblance to LT Calley who ordered unarmed woman and children killed in broad daylight.

[Stephanie]

47. Me too!

They both embody that generation. But John Kerry is a hero of that generation.

[rndmprsn]

50. i saw that yesterday...

made me smile...ted kennedy makes me proud to be a democrat!