What if the supreme court rules they can keep ten commandments

[Toots]

What would be next, a statue of Jesus on the Cross? I have nothing against religion of any type but I don't wish to have religion shoved down my throat. This decision scares me as much as the Bush* vs Gore decision.

[liberalnurse]

1. It won't surprise me at all.

They are a majority of delusional old farts.

[quinnox]

2. Nothing, it is the status quo

I don't see anything changing if they rule that the monuments can stay, the change would be if they rule they have to go, then they would have to cart off all those stone monuments from the capitols.

My bet is they will rule they can stay.

[ret5hd]

3. prepare for a theocracy...

needing permit to build a car-port at your house?
Be prepared to demonstrate that you are a xian.

got a criminal case coming up?
Extra time for non-xians.

want to fly to grandmas next year?
Better start your tithe paying now.

Think i'm kidding?
Just wait.

[Enquiringkitty]

37. I'll be damned (pardon the pun) if I'll live under a theocracy!!

I'll be a member of the "Free Liberal Underground". "Free Gun With Your Paid Membership"

FYI: A Nelly concert is to be held on the campus of the University of Arkansas. Pastors from 20 area churches are calling for their members to hold a protest to block the entrance and "save our children from this sin".

[cheezus]

4. watch for muslim, other religious groups to start erecting monuments

and more court cases to ensue

They'll be able to get away with making religious monuments in public places okay, but they'll never be able to limit it to only xtian monuments. Of course, that'll get the xtiam right in an even bigger tizzy then they are now and the shit will REALLY hit the fan

[Ian David]

5. The first four commandments were over-turned by the very first amendment

Not a coincidence.

The only one of the 10 commandments that has not been over-turned by American law is, "Thou Shalt Not Steal."

[ComerPerro]

29. I hope they do

That would be great.

[FreedomAngel82]

30. Definietly

It will be dangerous times if that does happen. They'll be foolish if it happens. I know I'll be scared.

[Padraig18]

6. I'll sue to make them clarify which 'version' we use.

As a Roman Catholic, I'll insist we use MY Church's version. I'm quite serious, btw.

[Cyrano]

9. As a devout Druid, I want pictures of Stonehenge in all

schools, churches and public squares.

[Padraig18]

10. Let's turn it into a legal bedroom farce.

Want to be my co-plaintiff?
;)

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

28. Just make sure to use ['] instead of ["] when you do

the original designs.

[Clark2008]

25. I'm Catholic, too. Want a co-litigant?

Of course, I'm more about putting up the Beatitudes than the Jesus-negated Ten Commandments, but what do us longer-than-Baptist-Christians know anyway?

;)

[JunkYardDogg]

7. Well, I will have to Covet My Neighbor's Wife for Starters

Than work my way thru the rest of them
When finished,
I'll be a full fledged Rethug
and Consider myself to be part of the Moral Majority
and an Expert on Real Republican Values

[BorrowMyCrew]

8. I think that's exacylt how they'll rule

[dogman]

11. Liberals who follow the Ten Commandments should display them at RW

events with the Commandment being violated highlighted. Show up at executions and enlistment offices with Thou Shall not Kill highlighted. Show up at rallies with thou Shall Not Bear False Witness highlighted and so on.

[Clark2008]

26. Oooohhhh... I LIKE that idea!!

Wow! That's a keeper.
I wish I could give you some stars or rate you up for that!

:thumbsup:

[FreedomAngel82]

31. Could be a plan

Throw it in their faces until they're so sick of it. And everytime we know one of them disobey's a law (including not honoring their fathers and mothers) we can make a public display of it. Make them want to take it down!

[LdyGuique]

12. Something from the Political Strategy site where the Luntz Playbook

resides -- another take on being a biblical literalist using Old Testament Laws in today's world :)

Dear President Bush,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said, “In the eyes of God marriage is based between a man and a woman.”

I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7 - In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9 - The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there “degrees” of abomination?

7. Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though Lev. 19 expressly forbids this: 27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Source: http://www.politicalstrategy.org/archives/000831.php">Political Strategy

[Vinca]

13. The fundies really haven't thought this through.

If the Ten Commandments is allowed, how could they keep a Wiccan symbol out of the country courthouse? Or a quote from the Koran? Or a buddha statue? The mantra should be equal time for all, including atheists (although I haven't a clue what we might install in the courthouse hallway - maybe a wax figure of George Carlin?).

[Clark2008]

27. You could always do this:

The enlightened of us would know what you meant! ;)

[FreedomAngel82]

32. Very true as well

And also if you think about it the Ten Commandments was given from God to Moses who was a JEW. So the Ten Commandments is actually a Jewish thing and not Christian. Christ didn't give the commandments. Don't a lot of the right-wingers hate Jews? :shrug: Looks like they don't even know their own Bible history. :eyes:

[Guaranteed]

14. Didn't they already rule on this anyway, with the

Alabama case??

[moondust]

15. Make room for more religious displays:

From Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, you name it. Anybody that can establish that their religion is legitimate I guess.

This could actually turn out to be a good education for fundies who do not understand freedom of religion and the separation of church and state.

[dolstein]

22. If you want to end the public display of Christian religious symbols

the smartest thing to do would be to get non-Christian religious organizations to start donating their own religious symbols for display on government property. If the government entity refuses to display those symbols as prominently as the Christian symbols, then clearly the display of the Christian symbol would involve the endorsement of a particular religion.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the display of religious symbols on government property as long as its done on an equal opportunity basis.

[moondust]

23. That's how I see it playing out.

The government must accept them ALL or NONE. And unless you want public buildings to become religious museums and cultural wars breaking out over monument placement and size and sanctioning, etc., then the smart move is to just pick NONE.

Oh yeah, not to mention posting guards to protect the X monuments from being attacked and defaced by the believers in the Y monuments which in turn need protection from the Z adherents...

[FreedomAngel82]

33. Someone should

want to put up the wiccan symbol (the five point star, the name of it slipt my mind now) or the star of david.

[Mr.Green93]

16. They won't

imho

[Pushed To The Left]

17. I have a feeling they will rule that way

I would be more surprised if they went the other way. While the displays really don't bother me, I'm a hardcore supporter of the separation of church and state. If the SC rules that the Commandments can't be displayed, it could be HUGE! If the Court takes a decisive stand for the separation of church and state, the religious right will be rendered powerless. If any law based solely on religion is ruled unconstitutional, the Robertsons and Falwells might as well just retire! This is why fighting against the right wing's attempts to stack the Court with extremists is so important!

[forgethell]

18. Nothing would happen.

We're the progressives. We're the ones trying to change things.

[thinkingwoman]

19. It won't be the first time

that the court has been wrong.

Throughout this nation's history, there have been monumental (no pun intended) rulings from the Supreme Court that have been flat wrong.

It very well may happen again. But the world will keep spinning.

[Disturbed]

20. A large statue like this will have to be everywhere, as well.

http://www.siamese-dream.com/page/siam1/PROD/Buddha-Statues/STBDresinmedit2

[thinkingwoman]

38. probably. nt

[IndianaGreen]

21. We can complain that those are not the real Ten Commandments

but an edited Christian version of the Commandments G_d gave to Moses. The real Commandments do not permit representing the Creator in human or animal form, and does not allow for a Trinity scheme.

[Clark2008]

24. Y'all don't think out of the box enough.

First, you start nationwide petitions to get every other religious groups' commandments and pillars displayed.

Imagine, every courthouse in America, as a result, has to disply: the Ten Commandments, the Five Pillars of Islam, the Three Jewish Commandments, the 13 Wiccan Commandments, the Buddhist Commandments, the Tenants of Satanism and so on.

Pretty soon, just to house all these commandments, courthouses all across the country will have to add wings and extensions, which cost taxpayer dollars - and the fundies don't like paying taxes as it is.

Beat 'em at their own game, I always say.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. I can imagine that now

The Ten Commandments and next to it the wiccan laws. LOL. That would be kinda funny. The Christian fundie's and right-wingers would FREAK! They're not thinking about this. Maybe this could make them want seperation of Church and State.

[Spirochete]

35. They don't "keep" the 10 commandments

They just want to display them prominently in everybody's fucking face.
Might be nice if they'd try obeying a few of them at the same time.

[tsuki]

36. Can we make them follow the commandments?

[Ivote]

39. No we can never make them follow the commandments but what we can do is

throw their hypocrisy back in their faces.
Why not list the ten commandments and attach a note that says
Which one of these commandments have you blasphemed today.
E-mail & fax every Senator, Congressmen, MSM etc

[tsuki]

41. Will start working on it.

[BillyDoc]

40. Anyone ever try COUNTING the "ten" commandments?

Its Exodus 20, for those who aren't exactly Bible Scholars. And for those others who don't have a Bible handy, here is the King James version. How many do you get?

Ex 20
1 And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.
20 And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.
21 And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.
22 And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.
23 Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold. (redundant)
24 An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.
25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.
26 Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.