Agree or Not: Quickest way to turn the country "blue"

[Used and Abused]

Is to get African Americans to join the Republicans in HUGE numbers. Let's face it, the last election wasn't about morality- it was about racism. The red /blue map when compared to the slavery map says it all.

[NoodleBoy]

1. huh?

just how would that turn the country blue?

[DaveinMD]

2. I think he's saying

that all the racists would leave the Republican Party. I think that's a silly strategy.

[DBoon]

6. A smarter strategy based on the same premise

would be to use immigration as a wedge issue.

Make sure all the xenophobes who vote repub know Bush wants more illegals in.

Conversely, let any Hispanic (or Asian or other immigrants...) know that the republican party is anti-immigrant. Some of these folks might be tempted to vote repub for "values" or economic reasons. Let them know the republican party hates them.

What made CA blue was prop 187 - it got the Hispanics out to vote against it and drive them into the Democratic Party.

[DaveinMD]

11. yes

Sounds like a good strategy to me.

[Lone Pawn]

3. Worst. Strategy. Ever.

I could just as easily say the last election wasn't about morality--it was about air conditioning. We ought nominate the CEO of Maytag in '08!

[Used and Abused]

5. It was a backlash over the growing influence of African Americans

in this society. That is my honest belief. If the parties were to even out as far as racial diversity, then race would no longer be a factor and people would be forced to join the party that dealt with the real issues.

[Lone Pawn]

7. It was a backlash over the growing influence of warm air in this society!

That is my honest belief. If the parties were to use air conditioning evenly, then air temperature would no longer be a factor and people would be forced to join the party that dealt with the real issues.

[NYCGirl]

4. And BTW, here's more on that "slavery map" thing from Snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/civilwar.asp

[demwing]

14. I love the purple map:

The Democratic Party does well in all states east of the Mississippi, (even the south), West of the Sierras, and in the growing Southwest.

As the population grows, so do our chances.

The real issues we have to worry about are not of color, but of transparency.


We need to make sure that as the populcation grows, it is allowed to vote fairly. The future is ours, IF all the votes are counted, and if our local grassroots are kept active and funded.

[XemaSab]

17. I like this summary

It's amazing how blue most of the eastern US looks and how red the central west looks.

Last night I was reading "History of Christianity" and they had a denominational map of the US. One could make a similar argument about Baptists and Mormons as about slave states.

The map on this page is a slightly different map than I was looking at, but it illustrates that same idea:

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html

[Tux]

8. No

Let's do this: promote Dems as secular and encourage people of all faiths (non-Christians) to register and join the Republicians. Republician Party is god's party afterall. Once in, they would start to annoy the Evangelicals. Once a Rep does endorse or encourage non-Christians, Evangelicals would leave and hopefully disappear from politics and crawl back under the rock they crawled from.

[Warpy]

9. WRONG!

yeah, they've welcomed bigots with open arms, and yeah, bigots flooded to them after the Democrats did the right thing and got that civil rights legislation passed, but that's not what's doing it now. It certainly doesn't explain the real moron corridor from Texas up through the Dakotas.

What has cost the Democrats all 3 branches of government was turning the party strategy over to the DLC, the all white, all conservative and mostly southern bunch who promised to counteract Nixon's southern strategy, the one that got the bigots to vote for the party of Lincoln.

The DLC simply took all working class economic issues off the table. They concentrated on the yuppie vote and completely ignored the traditional working class party base. They offered working people the business as usual that has been killing them financially for 30 years. The GOP played to their religious nutbag base and then offered tax cuts to sweeten the pot for everybody else. In short, the GOP offered a working stiff something. The Democrats offered him nothing.

Economic populism, as the new governor of Montana knows all too well, will sell very well to the most conservative of conservative voters. Clinton knew that and campaigned that way, even if he didn't govern that way.

If you want to turn red states blue, realize that Clinton was right about one thing: It IS the economy (stupid)!

[Bridget Burke]

10. Not.

You're willing to "use" racism--but you're not racist at all?

[HockeyMom]

12. DRAFT

and another "liberation" is the quickest way to turn the country Blue.

[Zuni]

13. no, it really was about "moral values"

Almost 25% of Bush voters came out to protest gay marriage, the striking down of sodomy laws, the so-called ban on Christianity---etc.

[GOPBasher]

15. So we can attract all the racists???

No, thank you.

[applegrove]

16. I think Bush should be prompted to speak out of White Supremacy

today. Seeing as how the USA had more in common with Iraq this week in terms of judicial security.

Bush is either for or against White Supremists. And he should be forced to say so.

[BorrowMyCrew]

18. I don't think so!!!!!!

[bigwillq]

19. Can I have some of what you've been smoking?

:crazy: