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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:05 PM
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"Dean Says Republicans are 'Evil' "
So says Matt Drudge. If you read the article, though, that is NOT what Dean said. The RW toad-boy has spun an article that is essentially favorable to Dean in order to promote the myth that Dean is a hot-headed, hate-mongering extremist.

That is QUITE a stretch, Matt.


http://www.drudgereport.com/ citing to this article: http://www.ljworld.com/deanfordrudge.html (Lawrence, Kansas)

Dean roars into town
Democrats welcome new DNC leader

By Joel Mathis, Journal-World

Saturday, February 26, 2005


<snip>

"We need to go everywhere," he told the (Kansas) rally. "There is not one county in this state, I don't care how far west you go, that doesn't have Democrats. We have to be proud of who we are." It was a message gladly received among the Democratic faithful.
"It was wonderful, very energizing, a very positive, powerful message,"
said Micheline Burger, who joined nearly 1,000 others in paying $5 to hear Dean, the former presidential candidate. "It gives me a hope there's a good future ahead of us, as opposed to what we've been having the last four years."

<snip>

His speech was similar in both Liberty Hall and the Hiebert back yard (Kansas fund-raising rallies). Democrats, he said, must reframe the values debate, claiming the high ground on Social Security, health care and protecting American security. "Those are Kansas values," he said.

<snip>

"The issue is not abortion," Dean told the closed-door fund-raiser. "The issue is whether women can make up their own mind instead of some right-wing pastor, some right-wing politician telling them what to do." And Dean told the Hiebert fund-raiser that gay marriage was a Republican diversion from discussions of ballooning deficits and lost American jobs. That presents an opportunity to attract moderate Republicans, he said.

"Moderate Republicans can't stand these people (conservatives), because they're intolerant. They don't think tolerance is a virtue," Dean said, adding: "I'm not going to have these right-wingers throw away our right to be tolerant." And concluding his backyard speech with a litany of Democratic values, he added: "This is a struggle of good and evil. And we're the good."

When told of Dean's remarks, Derrick Sontag -- executive director of the Kansas Republican Party -- said he was "shocked." "My immediate reaction to that whole dialogue is, it's full of hatred," Sontag said. "The Democratic Party has elected a leader that's full of hatred."


<snip>

-- Staff writers Scott Rothschild and Jay Senter contributed to this report.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:07 PM
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1. Surprise, Republicans!
We're all full of hatred for you.

Get used to it.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:07 PM
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2. Well, SOMEONE needed to say it!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:08 PM
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3. But... but... I thought he was aloof!!
<ROTFLMAO>

NGU.


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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:09 PM
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4. Hey, the right wingers have been saying Dems are evil for years now
nothing wrong with Dean's words. Overheated rhetoric is the right wingers stock in trade. Turnabout is fair play.

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Morose Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:11 PM
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5. Dean says republicans are evil...hmmm
ok what's the problem again?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:11 PM
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6. Boy, those Republicans sure squeal like little piggies when they're
feigning fake outrage, don't they?

:evilgrin:
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:29 PM
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18. Yes. They. Do.
"Weeeh, weeeeh, weeeh. I sure do have purty lips." Limbaugh said after hearing Dean's comments.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:12 PM
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7. That meme of theirs is getting kinda stale.
Stand up and defy someone who's trying to destroy you... and suddenly YOU'RE the one who's being mean.

Boo hoo hoo. :cry:

Yup, I hate the republicans, for what they've done to destroy America.

And here's something I love: the way Dr. Dean has TOTALLY gotten under their skin already! :D

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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:20 PM
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14. Oh YEAH!!!!
especially when you see how the candy-asses at the DLC are brown-nosing the Repukes. Dean has opened up a window in a room of stale air.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:13 PM
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8. Bosshog says republicans are evil and
bush deserted his military unit to avoid a drug test and bush profited from insider trading at harken and rice lied about WMD and cheney's energy task force is the reason we went to war against Iraq and bush toadies are lying about social security and conservatives are hate mongering fascists who are spineless when found alone and red state men obviously are not secure in their own sexuality to have to amend the constitution to save their own marriages. GO AHEAD MATT QUOTE ME.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:15 PM
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9. Now a reply from the newspaper Drudge almost crashed with that.
http://www.ljworld.com/section/citynews/story/197757
Drudge Report links to J-W story on Dean
By Dave Toplikar, World Online Editor

Tuesday, March 1, 2005

If you were having trouble loading a page from ljworld.com today, you can thank the Drudge Report.

About 9 a.m., the Drudge Report (www.drudgereport.com) put a link on its front page to a Journal-World story about Friday's visit to Lawrence from Howard Dean, the former presidential candidate who is now chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

The Drudge link is titled "DNC Dean Says Republican are 'Evil' . . .," which takes you to a J-W story titled "Dean roars into town."

The J-W Web site immediately began getting requests for that story, which began putting a load on the Web site's server, where the story resides.

"Generally, traffic spikes of up to 10 to 15 times times our normal load do not cause any problems" said Jacob Kaplan-Moss, programmer for World Online. "This morning we hit 200 times our normal load. We immediately began serving a high-traffic version of the page, which has everything stripped from the page but the story content."

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:18 PM
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12. Hope the newspaper sues! NT
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:16 PM
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10. Some republicans are both evil and vile.
Also not a Dean quote, but still true.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:18 PM
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11. Good! He needs to say "shocking" things like this at least once a week
Else, he wont get squat for press. It's a great strategy.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:24 PM
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16. And so much the better if
he didn't even say what's attributed to him, but he gets the publicity anyway.

I just hope that people who accuse Dean of being a hate-monger will actually read the article and understand that Dean was in fact reaching out to Republicans.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:19 PM
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13. Well, shee-ut, Matty, Dean is RIGHT
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:23 PM
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15. Earth to Rethugs/Drudge: Dr. Dean does not have to please you
or even the "swing voters" at this point. He is not a candidate for office. He merely has to raise money and help the Dems who ARE running prepare to win their next election. So he can think and to some extent, can say, anything that will help motivate Democrats.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:31 PM
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19. Basically, what Dr. Dean is doing is addressing the base, including
those 40%+ of eligible voters who never vote in an election, because they can't see the difference between Democrats and Republicans. That's the group that needs to wake up.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:07 PM
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20. so true!
That's what is so disturbing about the DLC announcement that Dems need to shun the Michael Moore, MoveOn wing of the Democratic Party.

WTF? Doesn't DLC "leadership" (or what is apparently meant to pass for such) know where their motivated Democratic base is? And can't they figure out what is the likeliest group to emerge from the fog of "American Idol" and shopping malls and Happy Meals. It's the same people Dean is reaching out to, the Democrats and Republicans who are rapidly figuring out that they're getting royally screwed over by the US government.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:10 PM
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22. Here's the link to the DU thread on DLC/ Al From
assessment that Dems need to ditch Michael Moore-ites and MoveOn-ers. Totally bogus idea. Makes me wonder how much From got paid to say it!


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1630278&mesg_id=1630278
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:08 PM
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21. "... those 40%+ of eligible voters who never vote..."
Exactly!!!

Forget about trying to lure red voters over to our side. It's the non-voters we have to speak to. They are HUNGRY for a strong, from-the-heart message that actually resonates with their lives.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:26 PM
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17. I wish he would say it....
eom
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:31 PM
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23. I wish he had said it - they ARE
at least the ones running the country.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:31 PM
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24. Those poor little repukes - refuse to own their shadow. What a bunch
of babies.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:07 PM
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25. Hey Sontag, you f*cktard...
I do hate you. How's that grab ya?
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:49 AM
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26. I hate you too, Sontag
I am filled with an incomprehensible and almost involuntary hatred for you and all the idiocy for which you stand. I know that yours is the way of love and understanding, Sontag, so you may not even begin to fathom the shocking levels of loathing I hold for you.

So just take my word for it.
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Staunch Democrat Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 01:05 AM
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27. Sheesh what a bunch of crybabies
Dean said elsewhere, "I hate the Republicans and all they stand for." So what's with this feigned shock? I hate republicans too, and I don't mind saying they're evil. Because they are, fer cryin' out loud! Shoot the messenger already! Does the truth hurt? And grow up, while you're at it!

Pay attention! After we had to listen to Rush Limbaugh spewing hate and foaming at the mouth, all through the Clinton years, making fun of Chelsea -- how low can you get -- it's payback time.
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