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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:35 PM
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Please cheer me up and trash this puke:
Liberalism: Can it survive?

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/050307/opinion/7john.htm

QUESTION FOR THE DAY: IF LIBERALISM isn't dead, then why are autopsies performed so regularly? In the latest examination of the much-probed cadaver, the New Republic 's editor-in-chief, Martin Peretz, recalls that John Kenneth Galbraith, in the early 1960s, pronounced American conservatism dead, citing as heavy evidence that conservatism was "bookless" or bereft of new ideas. Peretz writes, "It is liberalism that is now bookless and dying." Liberals, he says, are not inspired by any vision of the good society; the liberal agenda consists of wanting to spend more, while conservatives want to spend less. And the lack of new ideas and the absence of influential liberal thinkers, he says, are obvious.

Browse through an archive of columns by John Leo.

Galbraith's comment contains some comfort for liberals: Conservatism revived with great intellectual ferment and a long burst of new ideas, and liberalism presumably can do the same. But there is no sign that this is happening. No real breakthrough in liberal thought and programs has occurred since the New Deal, giving liberalism its nostalgic, reactionary cast.

Worse, the cultural liberalism that emerged from the convulsions of the 1960s drove the liberal faith out of the mainstream. Its fundamental value is that society should have no fundamental values, except for a pervasive relativism that sees all values as equal. Part of the package was a militant secularism, pitched against religion, the chief source of fundamental values. Complaints about "imposing" values were also popular then, aimed at teachers and parents who worked to socialize children.

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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:38 PM
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1. "Liberals are not inspired by any vision of the good society"
That's kinda funny, because really that's all I'm working towards and I'm about as flaming liberal as you can get.

These morans can just blow it out their asses for all I care.
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:53 PM
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5. It gets even funnier...
I am a fiscal conservative and social liberal, and my political beliefs are WAAAAAAAAAAAY closer to the today's Democratic Party than to the ReThuglicans...U used to be upset with "tax and spend," but the current "spend and spend" administration leaves me perpetually frustrated with the short-sightedness of the new right-wing ELITE.

There is that old saw about politics making for strange bedfellows....If I ever woke up next to a ReThuglican, I'd have to chew my own arm off to escape....Coyooooooooooooote UGLY!!!!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:59 PM
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6. He meant High Society.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:41 PM
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2. They lost me at 'religion [is] the chief source of fundamental values'
and the usual 'out of the mainstream' nonsense
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:49 PM
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3. "religion, the chief source of fundamental values"
Osama couldn't have said it better himself, could he?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:00 PM
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7. Well there you go! Religion must like war and poverty. Got it.
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pinellas Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:54 PM
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4. Happy to trash 4 U
Puffery - pure pund-o-cratic puffery.

Lotsa reasonable-sounding intellectualisation/rationalisation.


IOW, a 'think-piece', IMPO:grr:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:11 PM
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8. The old Republicans are dead. Liberalism is alive and well.
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