The Irony of W Ketchup

[Hippo_Tron]

I guess this doesn't matter so much now that the election is over, but I still find this hillarious.

Brand
HJ Heinz Co

% to Dem
17%

% to Rep
83%

$ to Dem
$9,457

$ to Rep
$46,177

source: choosetheblue.com

Right wing STUPIDITY strikes again.

[thereismore]

1. I dont get it n/t

[Technowitch]

2. That's the company Kerry's wife Teresa Heinz Kerry owns

[Hippo_Tron]

4. Owns is a bad description, she has stock in it

But she has basically no say in how the company is run.

[LittleClarkie]

9. I think she runs the philanthropy arm

Though I don't know if that is attached to Heinz Co exactly

Here's the info from snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/tides.asp

[LeftyLizzie]

24. She runs the Heinz FAMILY Philanthropies

Which has nothing to do with the company. During the campaign, I kept getting e-mails from my Republican friends tellinge me that John Kerry was outsourcing jobs overseas because Heinz Co. had factories overseas - and I know people who were actually boycotting Heinz ketchup. While the Heinz Co. does have factories overseas, nothing the Heinz Co. does has anything to do John Kerry or Teresa Heinz Kerry - except that she and her family have about 3 or 4% of the stock.

[LittleClarkie]

25. Then there was the stupid guy I encountered

drunk, I think, who kept insisting that if Kerry got in they'd throw ketsup bottles at the Iraqis. (Gee, shouldn't that be spitballs? How about spitballs in ketsup?)

He thought he was funny. He was wrong.

[tx_dem41]

23. She hardly owns it....I think they own 1-2% of stock in it.

Don't buy into Republican spin.

[Hippo_Tron]

3. W Ketchup was created by Republicans as an alternative to Heinz

Based on the logic that when you buy Heinz, you are supporting Theresa Heinz Kerry and therefore you are supporting John Kerry and other liberal Democrats.

However, the irony is that the Heinz corporation donates about 4 times more money to the GOP than it does to Democrats. So really, when you buy Heinz, you are supporting Republicans.

[China_cat]

5. And W ketchup sucks...big time.

[thereismore]

18. I get it now. Thanks n/t

[AntiFascist]

22. Are you aware of Oliver North's involvement? nt

[Catherine Vincent]

6. WTF?

I didn't know there was a W ketchup. How stupid!

[mogster]

13. Oh, it exists

Here's what you'd call propaganda art of the 21st century.

In 20 years these are considered collectors items from a (hopefully) past regime - like the propaganda art of the Soviet empire.

[thereismore]

19. That Natural Favoring ingredient is

most likely hydrolyzed vegetable protein, HVP, which contains a lot of MSG. MSG is a known nerve toxin, along with aspartame. Knock yourselves out, freepers!

[pamela]

7. Somebody should market a W Koolaid

The dumbfuckistanians would buy it. They don't get irony.

[phish420]

8. LOL!!!! n/t

[ragin_acadian]

10. and some toilet paper too

i'm sure there is plenty of money to be made on that one. i can just see the ad: "wipe your ass with a bush"

[The Minus World]

12. How convenient.

There's actually a company that sells such a product. They advertise in the back of The Nation.

[ragin_acadian]

14. i let my nation subscription expire in october, along with mother jones

i figured if shrub got sent back to crawford, i wouldn't need it, and if shrub stayed in the whitehouse, i'd just move to canada.

since the election was stolen, i can't honor either decision. so maybe i'll renew with both magazines.

[The Minus World]

15. Renew, renew!

Well, undoubtedly, it is a partisan rag. Post-election, I also fell into a "what does any of this matter?" period for a while, as well.

What kept me going is the realization that I wasn't fighting for politics, but rather the political party which is most likely to fall on the side of justice and rightness.

[ragin_acadian]

16. i actually kind of got irritated with the nation for a while

they kept running pieces that were more editorial than journalistic, and then that piece on james baker III came up right before the election - it was pretty good.

i signed up because i thought it would be pete brewton style reporting- follow the money, follow the money, follow the money - i still haven't found a magazine that is willing to do that, so i read rampton/stauber and greg palast instead.

[The Minus World]

17. Palast is my Hero

I prefer analysis over polemic, as well. Palast's book is one of the few I actually made it to the end of, and Mike Ruppert's is next on my agenda.

The Nation is good for a quick bathroom read, and it's intellectually accessible to moderates, so it can provide a source of casual political dialogue.

Sadly, I use the word "casual" since, whenever one escapes the political aspect of corruption and focuses on "following the money", as you put it, the approach is immediately stamped as "conspiracy theory".

[ragin_acadian]

20. definately, i like palast, i've read a few of his columns,

and the best democracy money can buy - great investigative journalism, pete brewton was definately branded conspiracy theory - he wrote bush, the mafia, & the cia - it was so well researched and exposed so much about the S&L's, iran-contra, and a couple of other things, that simon & schuster bought the rights to the book so they could bury it by not publishing it. unfortunately brewton got so burned out by all the research he did, that he is now in houston working on a law degree, rather than writing a sequel.

green empire by kathryn ziewicz is another good book if you are interested at all in the evil workings st. joe/arvida .

i haven't had the opportunity to take a look at mike ruppert, what is the title?

[The Minus World]

21. Thanks for the info.

Mike Ruppert's book is an enormous 900-page empirical analysis of the likely motives of the perpetrators behind 9/11 - from what I've heard, he names Cheney as the primary suspect, although I have yet to read that far.

The name of the book is Crossing the Rubicon. I believe there have been more than a couple DUers that have already finished the book, also.

[ragin_acadian]

27. Damn! thanks for turning me onto ruppert

i'm gonna try to get the book on amazon.com tomorrow.

"new pearl harbor" and PNAC.....that just about says it all, all we need is people to connect the dots.

what do you think: are we going to find the 9/11 blueprints some day like they found operation northlands? or will it end up being innuendo and conspiracy theory?

[The Minus World]

28. Sure, no problem.

His website, http://www.fromthewilderness.com is a great resource as well. I also have a DVD of one of his lectures, which is absolutely mind-numbing in terms of sheer data. I found myself walking away from that movie shaking my head, wanting to forget every single cogent argument I had heard; wishing I could go back to life as usual.

As for whether I believe that 9/11s true perpetrators will be exposed in the manner of Operation Northwoods - I'm still young, and I have yet to witness a political pendulum swing, but I would assume that it would be preceded by similar sentiments to what we're seeing today.

I believe that, fundamentally, history is cyclical; that man, as diligent his efforts may be at repressing the truth, has a basic desire to expose that which remains unknown. Politics is a mere footnote in this essential struggle.

We are at a pivotal point in the history of mankind, although many of us lead mundane enough existences to prevent us from realizing such. The right-wing can either grab for absolute, totalitarian control, or suffer ignominity in the pages of history - they cannot, however, infinitely maintain these tremendous lies they have been perpetuating.

Some say this will be the downfall of a once-glorious country, and others say "People are too busy with their Playstation 2s to care about anything but themselves". Which side is correct, we are about to find out.

[ragin_acadian]

30. wow!

"People are too busy with their Playstation 2s to care about anything but themselves".

that is a a fascinating debate: is populuxe a natural by-product of capitalism, or (in our case) is it a tool to distract/sedate and fragment the populace a la roman bread and circus?

i'm undecided on that one, does constant 1/2 off sales drive our economy, or bury our interest in anything but consumption?

or both?

[The Minus World]

31. I'd say both.

It's definitely a matter of "chicken or egg". Luxury and technological advance have always been striving points for man; however, it's possible that the elite recognized this very early on, and shaped circumstances in order to create a sedate consumerist population.

All it takes is a simple glance at who benefits from building a generation of socially-unconscious, historically-unaware, self-absorbed "useless eaters". They make great cannon-fodder; they know little about their Constitutional rights, so they provide cheap labor; they're distracted easily by Celebrity Show Trials, while the real news goes unreported; you can tear their fundamental rights away from them, and they'll shrug it off if you give them a good enough excuse.

I fall into the "Capitalism, when unchecked, is inherently evil (if evil can be described as "consciously doing that which is detrimental to mankind")" camp. Anything that can be exploited, will be exploited, if we don't apply the proper regulations - and Bush is simply lifting such regulations on corporate entities so they can be the juggernauts of greed their nature dictates them to be.

[The Revolution]

26. That's not a bad idea...

It would probably work :)

[The Minus World]

11. Save a bottle.

I hear Hitler brand moustache wax is a real collector's item nowadays.

[pstokely]

29. are freepers planning to Boycott Hilton Hotels?

even though Paris Hilton does not have much to do with the company