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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:09 AM
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What in the blue hell makes the AARP liberal?
Is there ANY sort of logic to that wild-sounding claim?

{I know we're talking about Repukes, but please try to figure it out.}
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:12 AM
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1. They're liberal because the oppose the right's attempt to trash Soc Sec
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 10:12 AM by Jack Rabbit
Hell, these days you're a dangerous liberal if you support the First Amendment.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:12 AM
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2. Smearing the AARP meets the current needs of the regime
They must get it out of the way to continue their rampant demolition of the democracy.
It is part of their mode of thought, the ends justify the means.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:12 AM
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15. the Shit Floaters said it's a "boulder" in the way
So anything they do to pry loose the boulder is fair game.

Gotta think big. The Shit Floaters are, first and foremost, a fundraising organization. This has got them a shitload of publicity.

Many good god-fearin' Republicans will join their sham organization and hand over money.

It's really just the nature of mercenary politics. I don't think the shit floaters have an ideology, actually. Neither do a lot of professional Bush supporters.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:13 AM
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3. It wasn't when the organization got behind that
god awful prescription drug plan so it could line the coffers of it insurance holdings. I would hope that they would represent the interests of their constituency now over their corporate needs. If they don't, the organization deserves to lose its membership and charter.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:14 AM
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4. I mean, I'm going through the AARP website and it's the most...
benevolent place I've seen in a long time.

My father, grandmother and aunt were all members of AARP and all I saw were ads on how to save money on car insurance or special diets for older folks. Stuff like that.

This is really disgusting what this assholes are doing.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:27 AM
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9. I thought AARP only promoted anti-war gay love?
Huh, go figure.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:17 AM
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5. I'll guess at it ....
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 10:18 AM by meti57b
In years past, older Americans lived below the poverty level (many still do) and Social Security has considerably made them better off. Social Security is a government "social" program, meaning government helping those who need help. AARP is supportive of older people (people known to need help) and AARP supports Social Security. That makes AARP, "liberal". republicans have always hated the idea of government helping those in need, and they believe "that's your tough luck" is the best policy towards any who are in need.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:18 AM
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6. They said things counter to Bushs desires.
That makes them evil. Evil-liberal. Case closed.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:20 AM
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7. they're terrists!!!
Makes you wonder why the govt opposes MD assisted suicide. Those damned old people w/a historical perspective are subversives, dangerous to the repubelic. Knowledge is power, hence, anybody with any knowledge is dangerous to chimpland. Teachers, old people who still know how to read, scientists who dare to tell the truth, dissidents, people who wear glasses. You get the idea.

Gyre

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:25 AM
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8. Two prong approach
The admin isn't getting the support they crave for the SS trashing, so:

a) They need an "enemy". With the AARP, they can pass blame on a them and use them as a wedge to try to get support from the public.

b) Promote USANext, a right-wing group that supports the administration, as a conservative "alternative" to the AARP and use them to promote the admin's policies, now and in the future.

It's fucking sad that these people are trying to make anyone who disagrees with this admin enemies of the state.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:31 AM
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10. Blue hair? n/t
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:31 AM
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11. All persons/things which disagree with needless war,
illegal looting, and insider trading on steroids, are "liberal".

I once considered myself a conservative. I was even a member of freerepublic. I despised Clinton. (Have changed that.) I voted for republicans for president.(Is this starting to sound like an AA meeting?)

When the Iraqi invasion began, I knew from the beginning it was wrong, deadly, and a catastrophe. (No, I didn't miraculously predict the problems they would have there--I mean, I knew it was a catastrophe for us average American citizens.)

I went on a site which, though it has many Bush-Kool-Aid drinkers, also has people from the more rational parts of the political spectrum. I spoke out against the fraudulent Iraq war, which I detest.

In a matter of nanoseconds, the Bush followers on the site tagged me as "liberal", "kook", "hard-left-winger", "communist", etc.

I was certainly none of those things. Not even close. I told the Bush cultists that I had voted for Bush in 2000, but that I had reached the limit with the fraudulent invasion. They refused to believe that I could ever have been "one of them". Yet in fact, I had--I had indeed been stupid enough to support that bastard in 2000.

(Needless to say, my views and my political label have radically changed.)

Bush cultists' "brains" cannot process any information that indicates that someone whose views they might have otherwise agreed with could possibly think ill of their god Bush.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:38 AM
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12. Mallard Fillmore targeted AARP--yesterday?
Quite recently, anyway. (I try to avoid the comic, but sometimes an especially dreadful one catches my eye.)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:44 AM
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13. It's an activist organization and that usually targets you
for gov and corporate front groups/lobbyists to ATTACK :)

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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:04 AM
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14. The message of hate and fear is the message of the Republican Party.
They will smear anyone that stands in their way. Their logic is the logic of the school yard bully.

What we need to be looking at is legislation to regulate PR Firms. Advertising firms have "truth in advertising." Advertising firmswish to persuade using positive tools, but PR firms, such as Creative Responsive Concepts, demonize using distortions, half truths, and lies.

PR firms manage perceptions, and using hate and fear is the easiest road.
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OneMoreDemocrat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:27 AM
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16. The thing that really gets me is that 'Liberal' is now fully.........
co-opted and synonymous with 'bad'.

Now all you have to do is to say something is Liberal and it is just assumed that you mean bad and/or evil.

Stunning.



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Payback Time Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:36 PM
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17. AARP published a Kiss-ass Ad Newspaper Ad yesterday 2/22
It was a full-page of a blown-up social security card. The text was succint but powerful featuring phrases like: If the sink is broke, do you throw out all the plumbing? Don't make Social Security become Social Insecurity. They managed to get it that it will cost $2 trillion to implement and won't fix the system. I hope it was in every major city newspaper as it was in mine (The New Orleans Times Picayune).

Tsuki, I love you idea. Regulate advertising with "truth in advertising" legislation. It is sorely needed.

And I totally agree with you, OneMoreDemocrat. The label Liberal is bandied about with extreme distain and suspiscion. If anyone can change all that, it's Howard Dean, but others are working on it, too. There's such a great email out that I've rec'd twice which mentions all the good systems that have come about and ending each sentice by saying you can thank a liberal (or, interchangeably, a Democrat). Don't give up your optimisim. The tide is turning as we speak, but it will take a while.
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Payback Time Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:38 PM
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18. Sorry about the grammatical errors...
I didn't proof read the message & just wanted to get it out!
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:09 PM
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19. Actually, it's used like someone would say PEDOPHILE. n/t
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