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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:04 PM
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MSNBC and CNN portray Gannon as a "Persecuted Conservative who is
Religious, and after all why is he being persecuted when other Presidents have used people to get their views out. Walter Winchell was mentioned on MSNBC where they had three against Ron Reagan who was "drowned out" including a jerk who is high up in US News & World Report who did the little "Winchell" story.

Blitzer never once mentioned that there is a photo of Gannon/Gurkert in his "tighty whiteys" that would make most of America Blush...especially those in the Bible Belt (well maybe not...) but most of America and he asked "soft ball questions" which allowed Gurkert to whine about death threats to his family..(his brother and his wife and his mother) and how he had a problem with his credentials with Congress (who denied him a press pass because he had to work on his website or something..don't remember that part but it was Congresses fault, not his)....

And..at this point I'm wondering if Blizter and the Gay Press Community are so scared of being "outed" themselves that they are ALL COVERING for Gannon. Which is sad, because it's not about his homosexuality but it's
that he denies it and tries to hurt other gays by slandering them and working to deny their rights.

So, Bush manages to co-opt the gay community to save Gannon's skin because it would cause "personal items" to come out about other members of our Press.

These Bushies are indeed very sick people. But clever in triangulation.

Both MSNBC and CNN were disgusting on Gannon. Has anyone mailed them the photo...oops ...I'm sure they have it already they just didn't want to talk about it. :grr:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:05 PM
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1. and I ask again
why do people bother wtih the Stenography Corp any longer
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:22 PM
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16. Because like it or not
they are the gatekeepers as far as "news" is concerned for most of the country. They are spinning this as no big deal and so the rest of the country will think that those horrible leftists have persecuted this poor christian man because he thinks differently than they do.

Have they mentioned that he was given a white house press pass just days after talon news was created?

Have they said word one about his being testimony before a grand jury in the valerie plame outing?

They are shameless. Honest to god I can not believe what this country has come to.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:07 AM
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46. I agree. Until they lose their sway over the sheeple in this
country we need to pay attention to what they are spewing.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:06 PM
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2. ask CNN to track Rathergate w/Jeff and Fox News (Jeff broke the story)
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:23 AM
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47. Absolutely.
I thought the mainstream and conservative media LOVED Rathergate. We need more investigation into Dan and the "liberal" media (GO! GO! GO!).
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:06 PM
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3. What photo? I want to see the photo!! Do you have it?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:10 PM
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12. There's one on this page
http://www.democrats.com/gannon

And about a hundred other copies scattered in posts throughout DU.

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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:15 PM
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14. Jeffy is sooooooooo cute
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:37 PM
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23. Right - SOOOOOOOOO cute - but looks sure can be deceiving
can't they? Thanks everyone for the picture and I signed the petition. Just hope something is done about this. These people are getting away with everything and I am truly afraid for our country.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:21 PM
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15. The photo was on his Web page before he took it down.
He proclaimed how "sexy" he was...and I am NOT kidding. Plenty of people have saved it or accessed a cached copy.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:13 PM
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29. lol
So because he thinks he's sexy others will. He's not that cute. Blech. Plus he's an a$$ and a Bush a$$ kisser. :puke:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:06 PM
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4. Maybe they can find a Cross to Hang him from...
and rejoice over their own personal martyr!

Personally, I have this gut feeling Bushies world will come down upon them. Too many scandals!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:08 PM
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6. anyone got a nail?
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:28 PM
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20. on my way to the garage, now!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:03 PM
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26. OMG....you guys are so bad.........
:D thanks for the laugh...needed it I'm so steamed...
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:07 PM
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5. I saw portions of MSNBC as ok- Ron Reagan certainly didn't
cut him any slack! I didn't see the whole thing, though!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:14 PM
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30. What did Ron say?
I can't wait till he has his own show. :)
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:08 PM
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7. grr
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:09 PM
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8. Once again they are nailing the coffin
on free press and burning their whoredom into history.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:09 PM
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9. Can't you just imagine
what Robertson and Faldwell would be saying if this were a Dem? I mean there would be ethics panels on every show by now, headlines in every paper. So much for that liberal media!
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Shredr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:09 PM
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10. That's so frustrating
That's all most of America is going to hear about this story.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:14 PM
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38. Not if we keep it kicked
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 09:16 PM by ailsagirl
It's fascinating to see how these whores can massage the truth to support this "administration's" lies.

Can't you just hear them defending Hitler??

They're so pathetic. Wonder what it's like to know you're aiding and abetting the biggest bunch of crooks in this country's history??

Must be a helluva payoff since they're destroying their children's futures, along with their own.

One has to wonder
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:10 PM
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11. Make sure not to lump ALL of the personalities on those networks together
CNN's Anderson Cooper seems none to happy with *Gannon (heard from someone here) and of course MSNBC's Olbermann absolutely NAILED his ass on last night's show.

So, if you're writing to the networks, make sure you single out those who are actually whores.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:13 PM
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13. If Gannon is gay, and it sure looks that way, he wasn't gay ALONE!
Whoever did it with him, whatever was done, DO A MONICA ON THE BASTARD! Can somebody out there offer a book contract?
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:23 PM
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17. yes,
is there a publisher in the house? I suspect rove is behind this one......
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CindyDale Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:25 PM
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18. Yes, if poor Gannon was a victim of sexual harrassment the public needs
to know!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:25 PM
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19. repost from kos comments Wolf G/G interview notes 2/10
Kurtz video intro: was an obscure member of the press corp. before he asked question recent press gaggle. He asked a rather loaded question (video of press conf.)

clip of question with "soup lines" comment

one problem, reid has never talked about soup lines
suddenly, bloggers on kos, dug into background and found his real name.
says he has been stalked by nuts on the left

mclean says he was allowed in on daily basis with daily passes.

critics call him fake reporter, lib went to far.

wolf: thanks, call you jeff or james?
gukert: call me jeff gannon. It is my professional name, license still has gukert because it is easier to pronounce.

wolf: why did you resign?
Gukert: people that disagree me have harassed me an my family. leaving my post would bring that to and end to this harassment.

wolf: how or what types of threats?
G: stalking me in my neighborhood, followed to church, hate mail phone calls. very troubling, went towards my family, so I decided to leave (talon).
W: Your family, you mean...?
G: my mother and brother got calls. contained threats, terrible things being said, disturbing and over the line.

w: one of the allegations charge you with having sexually explicit websites.

G: several years ago I registered various domain names for client. never hosted, never went up. client did something else. There are so many other things about me on the internet, can't address them all...

W: Did you try to change the subject (of press conf.) or where you there as a real journalist?
G: talon news is legit, my questions are things that my reader, 700k daily, want answers to. not fed, mclean never knew what was coming.

W: why did you not get credentials for congress?
G: made an attempt to do that, when talon was going to cover wash. our business model didn't fit the criteria of congress. went with daily pass for the white house instead. all under the process the WH sets

W: what next?
G: good opportunity, been painful but there is a silver lining. some people have called about interest in certain positions.
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:34 PM
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21. thanks for the transcript
for those who didn't see the interview - unfortunately, it looks cogent when the guy was shifty and stumbling. He was SCARED and the only time he looked straight at Wolf was at the end when he talked about being approached with other opportunities -- none of the assuredness we had seen when he was lobbing those press questions.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:42 PM
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24. Yeah, I can bet there is an "interest in certain positions." n/t
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:31 PM
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25. You have me laughing
"interest in certain positions..."

Indeed!
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:06 PM
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27. Good. It's hard to laugh in Bushworld. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:16 PM
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32. What do you wanna bet
none of that is true?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:35 PM
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22. Let him get on the record. If he's lying, imagine the egg on
Wolfie's and Kurtz's face.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:14 PM
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31. That thought crossed my mind...but after these Bush years my faith that
there will be "TRUE" follow up has faded. I would like to hope but with out a Repug Type Attack Machine...I fear they will "roll" us once again.

I swear if we had photo's of Gannon/Gurkurt in bed with the Chimp, himself, the media would say that it was a "mistake and that the "P-Resident" had gone off the wagon due to Presidential pressures and so we should forgive that he was inticed by this person... :crazy:

How they manage to explain EVERYTHING AWAY coming off what was done to Clinton and that American's have NO MEMORY or sense of hypocracy still boggles my mind.
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liberal43110 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:12 PM
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28. The most damning part of the story is the Plame connection
As little coverage as this story is getting anyway, the real point is not even mentioned in these TV stories: the connection to the Plame affair. The salacious details about the gay porn sites takes away from the likely CRIMINAL connection that Gannon provides to the Bush administration in the outing of Plame.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:27 PM
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33. one wonders how far Fitzgerald will pursue this....Gonzo smiles.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:22 PM
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40. DU'ers who know Fitzgerald keep telling us he's a "Bulldog." I'm sorry
my faith is flagging, here. Fitz is as much prone to threats as any of us out there. His "Investigation" is months overdue...and where IS HE?

I've given up patience with him. Sorry, Chicago DU'ers...there's just NOTHING COMING. Your "Bulldog FITZ' appears to have FIZZLED..... I want to hope...but given what I've seen these years...it's not likely he's still engaged in this in a meaningful way. I HOPE TO HEAVEN that I'M WRONG...

But.....Where's the BEEF/CHICKEN/PORK...SUBSTANCE?????? :shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:58 PM
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35. Kieth Olberman did try to bring it into the discussion tonight...but..most
Main Stream Americans wouldn't get it...they don't know what "Plamegate" is. But, I give him a little credit for trying..but why not have someone on who could put it into context, if Olberman/MSNBC is serious. What Olberman did was throw a "bone" to those of us who KNOW THE STORY...but left the MSAmerica overlooking it. That's how the MSM plays us. They throw the bone to the "Internets Folks" while downplaying to the MS Americans who just think Keith is funny, gossipy and was that "sports guy." :shrug:
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 08:55 PM
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34. CORRECTION: I heard nothing about a wife in that "family" statement
I heard "Well, my mother and my brother" but nothing about a wife.
Did I miss it?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:03 PM
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36. I know...it shows he's gay ...but shows he trashes his fellow gays with
his "Right Wing" views. The Repugs have somehow managed to get the "closeted gays" working against the Democratic Oriented OPEN Gays...and it's a war there. And the Press who doesn't want to admit they are gay that's caught in the cross fire.

I think the Gay Community needs to come together on this and root out the hypocrits...just like our so called "CHRISTIAN Community" needs to go after the Falwells, Robertsons, Dobsons and anyone else who declare THEY are more CHRISTIAN than the REST OF US.

Why are SOME GAYS allowed to be closeted REPUGS leaving out and trashing their FELLOW GAYS who are outed and MOVING ON?

Why do most of us Dems still allow the REPUGs to HERD US...like SHEEP over our BELIEFS. :grr:
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:12 PM
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37. Ah, yes... the repug noise machine has switched to high gear
media whoredom at its finest
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:19 PM
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39. Another rethug closet queen comes to mind.....
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:13 PM
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41. kick for those looking for what the cables did....
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:08 AM
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42. Rapid Response Network has this--
*THE GOOD*

Keith Olberman continues to do excellent work covering barely covered stories with Countdown on MSNBC. Last night he covered the "AKA Jeff Gannon" story in-depth, including a thorough video rundown of many Gannon/Guckert "questions." A Dana Milbank (of WaPo)
interview yielded a comment that Scott McClellan likely knew that "Jeff Gannon" was a pseudonym, as his correct name must have been given in order to have received a White House press pass. Additionally, Olbermann appropriately connected the payola pundit
controversy with this rent-a-journalist and gave a rundown of Karl Rove's new policy duties (homeland security - are you feeling more secure?), pointing out that clearly, Mr. Rove isn't responsible for screening out fake journalists.

*THE BAD*

We expect more of our "free" press than asking Scott McClellan, the guy with everything to hide, whether the White House is guilty of wrongdoing in the "Gannon" scandal (http://tinyurl.com/7xlpo & see original CNN transcript here, last interview <http://tinyurl.com/5ffgq>)

BLITZER: Is there any evidence that there's a connection, that the White House put him up to this to throw these kind of questions whether to Scott McClellan or to the president? Any evidence of wrongdoing, first of all, on the part of the White House?

HOWARD KURTZ: No evidence whatsoever. I talked to Scott McClellan about this today, the White House spokesman. He said, first of all, President Bush didn't know who Jeff Gannon was when he called on him at that news conference.



*THE UGLY*

KURTZ: . . . So the issue here isn't really Jeff Gannon's ideology. He's the first to tell you that he comes at journalism from a conservative perspective. The issue I think is, should some of his liberal critics, these liberal bloggers, have started investigating his personal life in an effort to discredit him?


** RECAP **

SO, RR recap: According to sources (Scott McClellan), the WH did nothing wrong (he promises) so that isn't an issue. "Gannon" is open about his bias (but not his name and, goodness knows, facts don't seem to actually matter), so that's not an issue. The REAL ISSUE is the mean bloggers who investigated his "personal" life?

ACTION:

1. Support real journalism. countdown@msnbc.com

2. Tell the Post, CNN and Mr. Kurtz that their bias and pursuit of misleading angles in this is unacceptable. They have a constitutional role in our government. Follow the story. We want to see them asking questions in a press conference. You know, do their job.

letters@washpost.com
kurtzh@washpost.com
wolf@cnn.com

3. Write your local paper or your fave major daily or a major network or two. This story impugns the credibility of journalism. They'd better follow the story if they want to maintain a shred of decency.

Addresses:
http://rapidresponsenetwork.org/blog/2004/08/resource-major-tv-news-addresses.html

http://divdb.com/propagannon/guckert.pdf
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
From: The DailyKos Diarists
To: National Desk, Political Reporter
Contact : Brian Keeler at nybri2@yahoo.com
RE: The Jeff Gannon Controversy - A Primer for the Press or Beginners
_____________________
Feb. 10, 2005 - An unprecedented coalition of citizen DailyKos Diarists have recently investigated and uncovered important details regarding Talon News reporter, James "J.D." Guckert (AKA Jeff Gannon). These details, along with other information reported by Media Matters and other blog sites, have led to Mr. Guckert's resignation from his position as Washington Bureau Chief for Talon News yesterday amid a flurry of controversy.
Prompted by a Jan. 26 report by MediaMatters.org regarding Guckert's "softball" questions to White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan and President Bush, members of DailyKos, an online community, began investigating the matter. (See .pdf file for more.)



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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:03 AM
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44. Good job pulling the links and contacts together, eridani!
:yourock:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:43 AM
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43. Conservative News Network is helping to cover the Bush deception
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:05 AM
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45. SUBPONEA HIM. The MSM Response means he knows a lot!
The Right Wing Media is scared as hell he will get before a Congressional hearing and talk. Therefore, they are rallying around him, attempting to give him the impression that when this is all over he will still be their best buddy and that we will still have a career as a Right Wing Journalist. In truth, the best he can hope for is hush money. His days of being a media glamour boy are over. The right wing does not take kindly to sexual businessmen.

If he still wants to be in the limelight, all he has to do is switch sides a la David Brock, and the Right Wing is scared to death that this is what he will do. Hell, he does not even have to go to the Left. He can become Middle of the Road or Libertarian. Both of those groups are ok with sexual oriented businesses, too. They just dont consume as much media literature as the Right and Left so they are not as good a career choice.

He might even consider a career in acting.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:22 AM
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48. He sure seems to love the attention. I wish we knew more of his background
though. Who runs him? Where did Eberle meet him. Did he really graduate from the "Pennsylvania University System" as he says. What were did he work all those years before he became the Talon Rep at the WH?

He seems to be very confident in being interviewed. Is it because he knows the "vast RW Conspiracy" will support him? Or, is he a "cocky, egotist," who was used as a tool? Why did Joe Wilson give that interview to him? Did Joe know something about this guy? Why did Talon have the "Memo."

There are still so many questions...I hope that some "whistleblowers" will contact the Kossacks with the "missing years." :shrug:
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:26 AM
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49. Where is this photo of Gannon I'm hearing so much about?
I haven't seen it yet, grr.
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