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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:51 AM
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Call from local media on my email
criticizing their Michael Moore report. I posted here last night that the NBC local affiliate, WAVE 3 TV in Louisville, KY was doing an exposé on Michael Moore as part of their "investigative reporting" for sweeps month. It was a biased hack job and I let them know my opinion through their web site. Was not impressed and told them so. Short, sweet and to the point.

Well, the General Manager of WAVE 3 called me this morning to discuss my email. He took exception with my opinion of his station's reporting. He used words talking about Moore as hack, dishonest, user of people, was not a documentary, etc. I immediately knew I was taking to a guy who not only drank the Kool Aid but also one who was responsible for mixing it up and passing it out to his reporters, employees and the station's viewers. Not sure why he called me except I think he thought he could sway me with his magnificent powers of persuasion to come over to the dark side.

The conversation lasted for over an hour. Us debating back and forth a whole array of political issues with no success of one converting the other. We discussed the budget, the war, Bush agenda, the Gannon story, Swift Boats lies, election coverage, etc. I say this with some measure of pride - I was better informed (read that as I at least knew about the issues and could discuss them - thanks DU!) than this guy who is the General Manager of a strong local affiliate of the NBC network. Had never even heard about the Gannon story but once I brought him up to date his fall back position instantly became "every administration does it." I told him that I didn't believe that because I watched eight years of the media going tooth and nail straight at Clinton and the man never once dodged a press conference or a question and there is no evidence that Clinton resorted to planting "reporters" in the press pool to lob him softball questions. He still believes every one does it.

He then started in on the liberal media and that Fox News was the only station that was actively biased for the right. Came right back at him and started citing examples of the biased coverage of Leslie, Tweety, etc. Told him that CNN was now Faux Lite and he was just astounded that I could possibly believe that. He then stated it was a well known fact that 9 out of 10 reporters were liberal. I asked him to cite where he got that stat and of course, he couldn't. I told him that even if it were true - who cares? It is not the job of the reporter to foist their opinion of a story on me but to just report the facts. That got him riled up when I added that I felt that if that figure is accurate it just proved to me that reporters are educated, understand the issues and voted on that information. That really got him going because I think he thought I was either calling him stupid or voting ideology instead of what was best for the country. Of course, I was, but really surprised he picked up on the nuance.

I finally ended the long, convoluted conversation saying that I didn't care what he chose to report on as long as he fairly reported the whole story. Whether it was on local, state or national issues Americans need the full story and not cherry picked facts to promote one side or the other. Said I was confident enough of the liberal position on most issues that if both sides were fairly and completely reported that those positions would compare favorably with other positions and a viewer could make their own decisions without prompting by one side or the other.

Guess what I'm trying to say is, I think the media is starting to feel the heat that our emails, letters and calls are starting to resonate on both a national and local level.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:54 AM
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1. HAHAHAHA!!! Way to go!
I agree, we should keep blasting the media!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:55 AM
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2. yes, they know they're dishonest
and having us call them on it does have an effect.

Keep up the good work, keep up the pressure, and keep trying to get the fairness doctrine reinstituted. In the meantime, when licneses of biased stations come up for review, don't be afraid to lodge a protest that the public interest is not served by propaganda.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:55 AM
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3. Excellent job.
It's difficult to have to speak to these people but we have to do this. We have to be willing to call "bullshit" when we see it, hear it or read it.

Way to go.

:yourock:
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:55 AM
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4. Wow good for you!
Maybe you got through to him, at least a little.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:02 PM
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5. Just the fact that you kept him listening for a whole hour is
magnificent! GREAT JOB!

Despite his attitude on the phone, you may have actually succeeded in getting him to think a bit more....who knows maybe he'll wise up down the line.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:06 PM
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6. hahahaha! good for you! nt
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:37 PM
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7. Thanks - we have got to keep the pressure on the local
media, the local elected officials and not let up. I think filing a protest with the FCC every time we see a report that is biased is a good way to keep their attention.

Keep those letters, emails and phone call going. We are now the grassroots movement that has got to get some balance back into the media.

PS - the guy had never heard of the PNAC and told me not to believe everything I read on the Internet. Told him to go to the web site and decide for himself about this group. It isn't some Internet wingnut site but a complete agenda by this group and their plans for world domination by the US. He just kept saying don't believe anything you read on the Internet. I finally asked him that I go to their web site almost every day, should I discount everything I read there. No? Well, then maybe there are other web sites that are reliable along with the nutcases and that a discerning reader would make attempts to filter through the junk for the gems. The line got very quiet for a few moments. As Jon Stewart would say, "SNAP."

Don't let any report on any station or newspaper go without a challenge. Keep up the heat.
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:51 PM
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10. Ha Ha
<<told me not to believe everything I read on the Internet>>

That makes me laugh. You should have said well apparently we shouldn't believe everything we see on TV either.... Gannon, faux press conferences, the female soldier who was supposedly held hostage in a hospital (while doctors were tending to her care!!). Yeah the new gets it everytime doesn't it!

The Internet and bloggers are more reliable than printed media or TV these days
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:00 PM
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22. Awesome on PNAC
I think we should start talking about that a little more often. Not as much but just to get the info out and people curious.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:39 PM
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8. Wow! Great job. You must have really hit a nerve for him to have called
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 12:43 PM by BrklynLiberal
you, and then stayed on the phone for over an hour with you. Sounds like you may have gotten him to do some research, if not some thinking.
GOOD WORK!! :yourock:

EDIT; Excellent quotes in your sig line.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:41 PM
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9. Whoa! He talked to you for over an HOUR? The GM?!?
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 12:55 PM by calimary
Holy smokes - you may be correct - that the media in general IS starting to feel the heat. NO WAY would you, just another single "peon" viewer, merit more than an hour taken out of his precious time and busy schedule, otherwise. He would just have dismissed your email - if indeed he'd even seen it. To whom did you send it, specifically? Was it to him, or was it CC:ed to him, or did it just find its way up the food chain?

WHATEVER the case - THIS IS GREAT!!! THIS IS EXTREMELY TELLING. They are noticing our anger. They know we're not just little isolated insignificant fringies anymore (not that we ever actually were). They know there's a substantial number of us, and that the number is GROWING.

Further, if he feels like he has to call you back and defend for this long a phone call, he's BIGTIME on the defensive now. He's obviously very sensitive about this, and you have hit a nerve that's evidently very raw, and rawther large. This could, in turn, mean that this specific station (or its chain, if it's part of one) has been feeling some substantial unrelenting heat from many angry viewers. He evidently doesn't like the conclusions he is increasingly aware that they've reached. And he doesn't like hearing that so MANY of them ARE coming to conclusions like these. And he REALLY doesn't like that if these people ARE INDEED making their feelings heard at his place, his own market research and high-priced consultants or consultant firms tell him that these people probably are voicing their opinions ELSEWHERE, ALSO. Or it may be coming from the consultants or democraphic research people of the parent company, or maybe from even his own sales staff - anybody boycotting sponsors or making noise about that? No GM wants to be at the helm of a ship that's steering into bad waters. It foments instability (which they HATE), reflects poorly on him within the company, and will likely cut into his profit-sharing and his bonuses, and if it's bad enough, he's just flat-out replaced.

Note, too, most general managers rise to that position from the station's sales department, or they're hired in from somebody else's sales department. Sales is usually THE pipeline to upper management. So he can read and crunch numbers. Therefore, you better believe Michael Moore's box office receipts will have spoken in a MOST loud and unsettling way. He probably hates Michael Moore because his contrarian views have made SO MUCH MONEY! Michael Moore committed the cardinal sin against the conservative power structure. Those durnd libruls aren't supposed to be getting rich and successful and powerful on what they're selling! How dare he?! It's just NOT RIGHT!

Probably, he's seen, or heard about, so many of these complaints by now that perhaps he picked yours at random, or the particular way you phrased your complaint resonated with him in some way, and he may have wanted to hear for himself what the deal was. He decided to do a little bit of his OWN market research, here. If you were some crackpot, he'd breeze off to his three martini lunch today and think no more of it. Unfortunately for him, you weren't. You were reasonable and very well-informed, so you were able to make many good, strong arguments, and you had responses and legitimate challenges for everything he said. You were gutsy and weren't afraid to speak up (something he, as General Manager, probably isn't used to) and dish it back. Nor is he used to hearing "uppity liberals" talking back in general. Democrats, after all, are supposed to go meekly to their little corner and lie down like good little doggies, so you're throwing a serious monkey-wrench into yet ANOTHER of his little comfort zones by fighting back. You weren't intimidated by this big-shot station management type (and besides, he couldn't just fire your ass for being insubordinate, since you don't even work for him - nothing in his bag of power tricks can be used on you because you're completely out of range). That unwigged him, too. GUARANTEED. I used to work in the news biz, both locally and nationally. These guys are a dime a dozen.

In fact, deep down, or maybe later on, he may have wondered why someone like you isn't working in his news department, digging stuff up and rattling cages that would make for some sexy sales tools that could be promoed like crazy and sold at higher rates.

And even worse - you JUST MIGHT have given him a few unsettling new things to think about... Shaking someone's foundations, and/or their comfort zones, does NOT make people happy.

Sorry this is so long and windy, but you just took me back to earlier days when we used to play "suss-out the management" in the newsroom or in the coffee room.

GOOD JOB, you. EXCELLENT. Keep it up. Give that kid a raise!
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:53 PM
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11. I just posted a response from the station web site on the Moore exposé
Evidently the GM gets copies of these each day. He did say he enjoyed talking to me and then he gave me his direct email address and his personal phone number so I could call him direct if I had anymore issues I would like to discuss. I think I was suppose to be "flattered" by his giving me a direct line to his inner sanctum but I think I'll just keep using the web site for my musings. Never know who gets to reads those besides the GM himself.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:12 PM
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16. No shit? Whoa - he IS doing his own market research.
Maybe he's the type who decides that, if he notices "a trend" he needs to go check it out personally to better understand it. If he's a true sales guy and he's any good at all, he knows the better he understands it - whatever it is - the more money he'll be able to make off of it.

Consider - the broadcasting Goliath ClearChannel Communications has actually ditched the programming (including wrong-wing talk/info) on some of its outlets to carry Air America instead. They wouldn't even bother their beautiful minds about it if they didn't think it was a money-maker. Besides, they probably have started to realize from their own market research (no wonder these guys are into money-money-money all the time - those consultants are EXPENSIVE!) that wrong-wing talk/news/information brokering has reached a saturation point. NO way to take it any farther, and, all of a sudden, there does seem to be this OTHER audience out there that isn't being pandered to. And it looks like it's already quite large and getting larger. It's a big, fat, juicy, ripe fruit just waiting to be picked, and they want to be the first to pick it. Translation: they realize that liberals, too, have buying power, and that's a brand new source of money they want to tap into - and it's more or less untouched, so far.

This is UBER-COOL! He sounds like a serious professional guy. He obviously respected you - you must have made a MOST eloquent case. Otherwise he wouldn't have given you his personal contact info and the invitation to stay in touch. By all means, DO SO. You may be his personal canary in the mineshaft. He's clearly proactive - he wants his finger on the pulse of whatever's going on (there's ALWAYS money in it), and maybe he's concluded that YOU are a good pulse point.

This is UBER-COOL in another way, too. This encounter could pay residuals. I've gotten jobs that way (AND one really wonderful mentor) - by striking up a good, professional (and of course, above-board) relationship with the GM. When there's an opening, they sometimes tend to say things like "hey, you know, you oughta go talk to my (fill in department head here). They're looking for someone right now..."
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:11 PM
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25. I enjoyed reading both your posts - you packed a lot of information
into them,

My local dem town committee is about to start a media blitz with letters to the editor and so on; you've given me much to think about. If anyone doesn't want to start letter writing I'm going to save what you wrote and show them

Thanks
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:48 PM
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29. Thanks back atcha! I'm VERY happy to be able to pass on something
I know - that might be of help.

Please share it if you think it'll be useful.

If you think mass houndings don't have much of an impact (or some of your colleagues become dejected enough to go there), please also remind them of the Boxer Rebeliion out here in California (Barbara Boxer said that if she heard from enough people urging her to support the John Conyers-and-company Ohio vote challenge, she would stand up. And we did. And she did. Also suggest they look at the Lazarus Effect of Howard Dean - they scoffed at him, they played his "scream" video ad nauseam, they pronounced him yesterday's news. But the grassroots stayed with him and got big and loud and insistant and refused to go away, and we outshouted his detractors - and ALL of his challengers for DNC chair. To which he's about to ascend, on Saturday.

It works. Sometimes it just takes so doggone LONG!!! But it works. I saw it at the local station level with everything from request line operators and songs to stories we did on the hourly news that had a HUGE impact.

It works. Easy to get discouraged sometimes, but try not to. It works. Takes a helluva long time, sometimes, but it works. One teeny little degree of temperature change can crack a glacier off the polar ice cap.

Go get 'em!

If they think WE don't care, THEY won't, either.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:03 PM
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24. Something I'm wondering with all of this
Something I'm wondering is with all of what's happening with the media is the election out come. I know it and we all know it here what happened, but things just aren't adding up to the final "results" (the one's we were given anyways). Know what I mean?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:54 PM
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31. Yes, unfortunately.
There we who object and present reality checks are often marginalized as conspiracy nuts. But it IS true. We DO know at least some of what happened, and we DO know that a LOT more of what happened just smells REALLY fishy. And doesn't add up. I'm no expert on this issue - it's almost too overwhelming and hard to keep track of everything. But knowing the track record of the folks behind it, what they're like, how they've grown up, and how they've succeeded - including the maneuvers and tactics and corner-cutting and character assassination and flat-out cheating - it's just a short putt to the truth.

It does get harder, though, as time passes, and separates us farther from the event, to keep anybody's interest. So it's difficult to pursue as the trail starts to be perceived, by many, to have grown cold.

And besides, this STAND UP AND FIGHT BACK stuff is a pretty new phenomenon. A lot of people are just starting to get their sea legs, I think, and maybe they're just not used to it. Having a backbone installed is a whole new and unfamiliar thing, dontcha know? And it takes some time.

But I must say, stuff like this REALLY gives me HOPE!

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:55 PM
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12. great job.....keep it up
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:59 PM
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13. Thanks for sharing
Awesome job ..

Hold their feet to the fire and turn up the heat :D
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:05 PM
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14. Re: that hackneyed claim "90% of reporters are liberal" ...
Every time I hear this hackneyed old claim, that may once upon a time have actually been true, I have two thoughts:

1. Why doesn't anyone ever ask about the politics of news executives? After all, they're the ones who make assignments to reporters, decide what stories and what coverage of them will go on the air, decide what reporters get hired and fired.

2. There may have been a time when it was true, and it was a direct result of McCarthyism's lies, blacklists, and censorship. Simply telling the truth made one a liberal. (Well, we seem to have deja vu all over again, don't we?)
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:37 PM
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26. "Simply telling the truth made one a liberal."

Conservatives aren't just claiming the media is too liberal for propaganda. They believe it. The problem is that DUers don't understand what Conservatives mean when they say that.

Conservatives aren't saying that the media shows too much of a leftist view point. What they mean is that the media is not patriotic enough. 90+% of the news coverage of the Vietnam War was pro-war in nature. Conservatives thought that ANY non-patriotic coverage of the Vietnam War was treasonous. Even the smallest coverage that showed the anti-war movement in a good light was unacceptable and "too liberal".

I received an advertisement for a conservative American history book yesterday. The difference between conservative and liberal history books is that conservative history books highlight the bright spots of American history while liberal history books offend the average American by including negative reporting on American history. And that isn't my take on it, that is what the conservatives themselves were saying. They believe that we should only report the good stuff. Anything else is anti-American and treasonous.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:10 PM
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15. Way to go! I love this part
I was better informed (read that as I at least knew about the issues and could discuss them - thanks DU!) than this guy who is the General Manager of a strong local affiliate of the NBC network.

I have noticed MANY times that I know more about a good many things than pundits and reporters and others do. Of course, I spend a good bit of time each and every day getting there, but still...

Way to go!!

I also loved this:

Said I was confident enough of the liberal position on most issues that if both sides were fairly and completely reported that those positions would compare favorably with other positions and a viewer could make their own decisions without prompting by one side or the other.

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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:13 PM
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17. Well Done Grasshopper. n/t
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 01:14 PM by slor
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:19 PM
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18. Representin'!
the 411 to the GM on the DU. Good show!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:23 PM
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19. Refer him to Media Matters so he can see what CNN/MSNBC
says that distorts the facts to the right.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:41 PM
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20. Best thing I've read all day!
Thank you...thank you...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:57 PM
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21. That's great!
Good for you! I laughed when you asked about his sources for stuff and he couldn't tell. Haha! I think they're starting to feel it too as in the recent Gannon thing. Funny how he didn't know anything about that.
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PeaceProgProsp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:02 PM
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23. With "liberal media" like that, who needs conservative media?
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steelyboo Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:42 PM
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27. I live in Louisville too. Is it me, or has wave ALWAYS felt "republican"?
I just turned 32, and I would say they have always leaned that way. Regardless, great job! I have a pretty big mouth, I might just have to give ol WAVE a call and pick up where you left off :evilgrin:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:02 PM
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39. Have you been to the WAVE 3 message boards?
Or the Courier-Journal boards?


If you're not in lock-step with the Bushies, you're a commie-lib traitor!
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:47 PM
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28. Thank you for posting that great story -- so they do read the e-mail!!
I've posted things on DU asking people to do e-mails and some people reply and say, "why bother -- nobody reads them". Now here's proof that they do (at least the local stations). Thanks so much -- I'm going to link your post the next time somebody says that.

I think it's totally amazing you talked with him for an hour -- that must've been a great e-mail you wrote.....
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:05 PM
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33. Thank you for the kind words. My email was not long but it
did address the content of the report, the methods and the people chosen in Flint to talk on camera, the shoddy camera work and the opinions disguised as fact in the reporting. Told them I expected more from their organization. Was not rude, didn't cuss (although the urge was strong) and I didn't call them names.

Not sure why he stayed on the phone for so long but he kept talking and so did I. We covered a lot of subjects and he did admit he was scared to death of the religious zealots that have taken over the Republican party. On the flip side of that he was a strong proponent of a market economy and truly believes everything that comes out of the WH on Social Security, taxes and the economic boom the country is now "enjoying." (Guess he is not one of those single mothers so "lucky" to hold three minimum wage jobs to support her family.) We debated the ethics of a company that was charged with the public trust to report the news in conflict with a corporate head and a board of directors charged at keeping their shareholders happy. He would never admit that money could ever be a factor in what is aired on today's networks.

This little experience has made a believer out of me. I have written many emails to NBC, MSNBC, CBS, and CNN (I avoid Faux like the plague so I can't comment on their content) but this is my first brush with a local affiliate in my own area. (And would love for it to lead to a job in this arena.)

Maybe this is the route we need to take - the members of my Democratic Meet-up group are strong believers in taking back this country on the local level and building from there. Today Louisville, tomorrow Kentucky and then a charge on the nation for a return to sanity.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:48 PM
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36. You definitely should keep writing -- looks like you've got a good touch
I lived in Prospect, KY (Oldham County) for 3 years -- just moved back here to NY two years ago. When I lived there, I applied to the Louisville Courier-Journal's "Forum Fellows" program and got picked. Me and 19 others got to sit in on the morning editorial meetings for a week (3 of us at a time). It was totally fascinating. Also, we got a chance to write a guest editorial - mine was printed (sorry, can't help bragging a bit....it was so cool to see my article in print...). You should check it out -- I think they print a article about applying sometime in the early fall... Well worth the time if you can get off from work to do it.
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cyn2 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:50 PM
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30. Bravo Dem4life! Not Sinclair, is it?
What a great story, and well told. First question in my mind....it's not a local affiliate owned by Sinclair is it?

Also, the guy's lack of professionalism is very obvious. If he's saying that FOX is the Best, yet he works for NBC---sounds like a bit of a professional conflict.

Good for you. I can never pose a very good argument, I get too flustered. I might have to borrow you next time.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:07 PM
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34. I did ask him who owns WAVE and he told me a group called
Liberty. Think he said it was out of North Carolina but don't quote me on that!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:28 PM
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46. See my post #103 here
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:58 PM
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32. Outstanding!
The sleeping giant public is awakening and directly affected is the way news is gathered and distributed. This affects the media's revenue streams and career paths which using Maslow hierarchy of needs is foundational. It is imperative to note that the editorial process and distribution is where a strong light needs to be shone. that process needs transparency and those editors, producers and management need to feel the heat as well.

Great job! :)
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:34 PM
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35. you are a rock star!
good for you...you make us all proud!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:51 PM
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37. WOW!!! *LOL* Outstanding!!!
You must have skill to have kept him involved for a whole hour!!!

Good for you!!!

:yourock:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:31 PM
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38. BRAVO! You did a service to our country today and should be commended
We are not backing down from these RW nut jobs, and we have the facts on our side. Excellent that you have the recall ability and patience to argue with one of these misguided fools. BRAVO!!!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:58 PM
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40. This is what I just sent to WAVE 3 and CC'd the FCC and LibertyCorp
Good afternoon.

First, I just want to say you have lost a long-time WAVE 3 viewer.

I am truly at a loss for words as to how WAVE 3 decided this "Special Report" needed to be done and broadcast during the week of Feb. 7, 2005. With the hypocrisy and deception being waged by the Bush administration (esp. now that news is out of the planted "reporter" James Guckert, aka Jeff Gannon, who had access to classified CIA documents), one would think WAVE 3 could actually produce a news segment that contained actual news! This "Special Report" had one motive, to defame Michael Moore. Even your headline of Part 2 of 2 "Some Say Michael Moore Omits Facts, Distorts Truth" is straight out of Roger Aile's FOX News playbook. The phrase "Some say" is a convenient way to interject opinion and subjectivity into what should be a completely objective newscast.

As it stands, WAVE 3 has fallen into lock-step with the right-wing propaganda machine and is proferring infotainment in lieu of news. WAVE 3 has become that which was decried by Jon Stewart in his recent interview on C-SPAN re: the paucity of responsibility in the media to hold our government and corporations accountable for their actions and their statements.

I realize this is ratings month but is the dollar held in higher esteem by WAVE 3 than the truth? From my viewpoint, that is most certainly the case. And it most certainly must be in violation of your FCC license to broadcast such blatant personal attacks.

Do you want to create a true "Special Report"? Why not focus on how the Bush administration has destroyed decades' worth of work by environmental groups and previous administrations in favor of corporate lobbyists? Or, how about working to uncover the propaganda being spread now about Iran. The same rhetoric that led to the unjust Iraq invasion is now being spread about Iran. Can you say, draft? How about a "Special Report" that hits home, focus on how developers in this area are dead-set on urban sprawl before the roadways are upgraded. Ever drive down KY 146 or KY 22 at rush hour?

Stop being a part of the problem with today's media and start being an actual *news* channel.

Regretfully yours,
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:57 PM
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41. And the response received...
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 04:27 PM by Roland99
The guy can't spell
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:05 PM
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42. And my reply to that
Dear Eric,

While I agree that it is important to hold those in the public eye accountable, a simple matter of perspective is desperately needed. What was served by your character assassination piece? Not one thing. You're simply poking at the animal behind the bars and increasing animosity by revealing your right-wing bias.

You state the other party refused to answer your criticism. Why not take a moment to assess this from Michael Moore's viewpoint. You're a reporter for a small-town (yes, we're a small town) news station. Moore probably gets hundreds upon hundreds of requests, criticisms, etc. daily. He has people making actual movies attacking him personally. Do you honestly think he cares to give you one moment of his time? Tell me you're not that arrogant, please.

If you want to hold those in the public eye accountable, try to focus on those that actually influence our lives directly. Those people would be the ones that create legislation, enact that legislation, and rule on that legislation. It would also involve those who create products that we use everyday in our lives (food, vehicles, clothing, consumer electronics, etc.) It does not involve people that make films for Hollywood.

Keep the proper perspective and drop this vindictive, partisan bull****.

Yours,


P.S. Eric? I don't mean this in a mean vein but seriously consider investing in a spell-checker.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:32 PM
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49. Way to go! Excellent letter.
I would love to know how many emails, letters and phone calls they have gotten on this report. I didn't watch the second night's segment, did they address the local response to the story at all? I did check out the message board on the story but found the usual assortment of people harping back and forth in a pissing contest.

Flack's spelling is apparently right up there with his reporting skills. He might be a nice guy but he must have skipped class when they touched on journalistic integrity in school. Real smear job with absolutely no redeeming value.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:19 PM
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43. self delete, see other reply
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 04:22 PM by bunkerbuster1
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:21 PM
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44. y'know, you might wanna consider a self-delete here.
Publishing personal email correspondence in a public forum like this is a no-no, unless you've got permission from the guy.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:27 PM
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45. Guess I never realized that.
will do
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 05:00 PM
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47. Congrats!
:bounce:
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:14 PM
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48. Congrats and thank you. I'm going to try to do the same thing with some
local papers here just outside of DC although, most people around here know the real deal. It's those parts of MD in the boonies that only listen to Rush and Hannity that are dead to the issues and facts. I'm going to try real hard to reach them.

YOU DID GREAT!!! Can we get some more responders to do the same in their neck of the woods?
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:03 PM
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50. Thanks for standing up to be heard........Best Wishes from the Bluegrass
......more importantly, thanks for taking the time to study the issues involved
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:26 AM
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51. Did you see WAVE 3 last night? Eric Flack was assaulted on another story!
He was doing some 60 Minutes-style investigative report on a local company doing some fraudulent billing or something and was assaulted by the company's owner.


Oh, it was so funny!
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