My Big GAY Perspective on Gannon. . .

[Brian_Expat]

. . . is that he's a whore in EVERY sense of the word.

And the conservatives who were busy gay-baiting, passing anti-gay laws, lecturing politics at churches and calling for a constitutional amendment against gays -- who are now bleating over the "violation of Gannon's personal life" and referring to critics as "homophobes" can kiss my gay ass.

Do NOT let up on them, any of you. I'll be more than happy to rip any conservative a new asshole if he tries to call any of you "homophobes" after supporting that odious anti-gay agenda of hate known as neoconservatism.

Do not let up.

Do not let up.

Do not let up.

Do not let up.

[Botany]

1. You are not gay are you???? LOL

As a straight guy I just do not get the numbers of self hating gays who
work for bush.

Gays for * = Jews for Hitler

The chairman of the Franklin County, Ohio Repugs is gay ......
he used issue #1 (gay marriage ...... if you are a man opposed to gay marriage ....
do not marry another man) as a wedge issue here to help bush.

:grr:

[Brian_Expat]

13. Damn, no wonder I can't get a date! ;) n/t

[Botany]

20. Sure you can .....

...... a man date.


:bounce:

[Brian_Expat]

27. *groan* n/t

[catgirl]

2. How is the media handling this?

I was out of the country when this all broke. Is it getting attention
in the media? How far spread is it (any others named yet?).

[Donailin]

3. a short burb on c-span this morning

and then on to pro/anti Dean calls.

[bostonbabs]

6. olberman...

last night did 10 minutes on this with an excellent editing of questions asked by Bush and ScottMc....they called him by name.

[dmkinsey]

22. It was on NPR last night

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[izzybeans]

4. Right on. he's just a pawn in the United Hates of a America known as GOP

<advertisement fade in with bloody eagle soaring in front of a rebel flag>

<Lee Greenwood's voice growling in a slow southern drawl:>
It's a big tent people. Bring all your tired, your spoiled, your hateful masses. The GOP wants you! No not you silly faggot. You over there with the mullett and angry disposition. Come on in! Bring your wife too. but tell her to be quiet and get in the kitchen. we need to eat. Now go cook me some dinner devil woman.

<advertisement fade out with the bloody eagle falling lifeless into the heart of an industrial slum to the feet of a devilish uncle sam>.


Keep on these assholes!

[DistressedAmerican]

5. I'll Admit, I Am Conflicted Here

I think attacking them on the gay angle is little better than if they did the same to people on our side.

Why the hell is no one talking about the Vallery Plame connection? That is the story, not the guy's sexual orientation. If we go after the gay thing it will just dissappear like the Armstrong Williams story. Tie him to Plame and the WH. Make it criminal!

Personally, I love to attack on every opportunity but, I think we are all missing the real news here.

Who the hell cares who this asshole has sex. I want to know about his Whitehouse connections and his aid in outting a CIA agent.

[keopeli]

7. It's going to be really ugly, but I don't want a gay man as scapegoat.

They'll just use it to drive in the gay stereotype of over-sexed and ruthless whores, a stereotype I would rather avoid. Plus, the real culprit is someone like Liddy or Cheney or Rove. Bush* was probably playing xbox.

[DistressedAmerican]

9. My Gut Just Tells Me It Is Wrong

I have many gay friends, some of whom are Republicans. Most of those were so turned off by the Repug gay bashing that they voted against BuchCo. They know where the blame should be placed.

I think you are right, it mainly feeds the stereotypes. We shouldn't become the second party of gaybashers in America. One is plenty.

[blondeatlast]

12. Forget the gay angle, period. The man is literally a WHORE.

He's a porn-pushing whore who got WH credentials.

I agree with you about the Valerie Plame angle, that's the biggest issue, but it won't sell an investigation or discredit anyone in the media.

This isn't an ideal world; corruption can't bring evil down, but sex does. But we DON'T have to exploit the gay angle to do it.

[izzybeans]

11. I think this issue should be framed away from Gannon

He is just someone's slag. Go after the pimp himself. We all know who that is. I agree with you completely. But even beyond the hatebaiting by the repugs. its always a mistake to vilify the fall guy without going after those who he or she is taking the fall for. It has to be clear to the people how truly hypocritical this is. A homophobe labeling his opponent as homophobic is truly ironic (I won't say Orwellian because its just so tired a euphemism). Perhaps this sort of baiting was intentional for this purpose alone--twist the language so the rhetoric works for them.

[DistressedAmerican]

18. Bravo! Well Put! (n/t)

[No Exit]

25. Okay--how about Steffen?

Yes, I know that it's really BUSH, but the road to Bush's ruin will be paved with "small" scandals like this, b/c that is what the public pays attention to--the trivial!

Steffen is a freeper who posted under the name of NCPAC, and started a false, personal, gossip campaign against Baltimore (democrat) mayor O'Malley, who wants to run for governor. Finding out about Steffen was important to me b/c it is actual, real, PROOF that paid republican shills inhabit and influence freerepublic. (I know everyone has suspected this, but it's even better when there's actual proof.)

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. The issue is not that Gannon is probably gay.

The issue is that he is a pervert and was possibly involved in some pretty kinky porn stuff. He is a whore but his sexual orientation is secondary.

[Bridget Burke]

8. Doing it for money is the issue....

The word used was "whore"--which may suit him in several ways.

Why emphasize the "gay" angle? HIS party is the homophobic one.

[blondeatlast]

14. Exactly. He's a literal, media, and political whore.

We need to use the phrase over and over.

[sendero]

15. Isn't there a difference...

... between that fact he is apparently gay and the fact that he is apparently running some questionable sexual-oriented businesses?

To me, the former is only a bit relevant, the latter overwhelmingly relevant.

To me, the story here is the business activities, it wouldn't matter much if it involved straight or gays.

And, you have a really good point - in that the spinmasters are going to make this about "gay" and "sex" instead of "fraudulent patronage".

[Brian_Expat]

16. No, his sexual orientation is a big deal

He baited gays in his stories, ran anti-gay editorials, endorsed the anti-gay amendment, referred to us as "perverts," and then was running a website offering gay military escorts?

Hypocrisy should ALWAYS be unveiled. It's not homophobic to refer to Gannon's sexual orientation any more than it is "anti-divorcee" to blast Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich on their marital peccadilloes as they fulminate over "preserving marriage."

[blondeatlast]

19. But the hypocrisy angle shouldn't be the PRIMARY angle.

We hurt some of our most vocal and active allies if we use that as the focus.

I'm with Sendero; we need to play on his literal and figurative whoring first.

[DistressedAmerican]

21. It is when we start talking about him fucking Mehlman etc.

I have seen tons of posts along those lines. Wrong. Hypocrite yes. I'll gladly give you that. But, ALL I keep seeing is GAY! GAY! GAY!

For example this thread about "mangate":
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1582640

We let the repugs feast on us after the Cheney's daughter remark. Are we just going to open that door again?

There is a real story here. It is not the guys sexual proclivities! As noted in another excellent post above, we go after this guy over the gay issue, we are missing the point and going after the patsy. This guy is undeniably scum but, he is just Oswald.

Who let him in to the briefings? Did they use him as a propaganda tool? Did he serve as a conduit for the Vallery Plame info? Those are the questions we should be asking.

Should he have been kept out of the briefings BECAUSE he is gay? No. He should have been kept out because he was an uncredentialed hack working as an administration mouthpiece and conduit for illegal leaking.

[Brian_Expat]

28. I want gay Republicans relentlessly mocked

Gannon and Mehlman included.

[bunkerbuster1]

26. "Who the hell cares who" Gannon has sex with? Not me. But...

I'm certain we'll never get this story full play -- as opposed to the lame Corporate FuckDoll Media mentions so far (Olberman's brilliant take last night being the sole exception) -- unless we shout GAY SEX! PIMPIN' for GAY SEX via the White House! until enough people notice.

THEN, and only then, can we get them focused on the CIA agent story, which has been a very tough sell because it involves so many chess moves. This one is short, simple, and to the point--when Scottie or the Preznit felt heat from reporters, they called on a GAY SEX PIMP to feed them softballs.

[12345]

10. It doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation.

It has more to do with the White House allowing a prostitute with no journalism credentials, working for a fake news organization into the Press Corp. Not to mention the ties to the Plame case.

I think we would all do well to ignore his sexual orientation. It's only of interest if it somehow ties him to someone in the White House. Otherwise it makes us look like hypocrites.

[catgirl]

29. I agree. It has to do with illegal activity.

Prostitution is illegal and the White House hosted prostitutes at
least 4 times. They have a close relationship with the man
directly involved and probably broke security rules by allowing
him to take the middle of the night tours. Giving exclusive news
items to a fake journalist should be scrutinized as well.

[chookie]

23. When you post a picture of yourself on an escort site...

...it's kinda tough holding claim to high moral ground.

At the very least, he posted a picture of himself for pruient interest. There may have also been prostitution or solicitation involved.

This is not a "gay" thing --it a scuz thing, a sleaze. Seems to me that this photo is the "blue dress" for Mr "Gannon." Seems to me that if you post a picture of yourself in your underwear on a gay military escort site, you've kinda lost your right to take the high moral ground, or associate yourself with the claim of being "mainstream". How people can defend him for this against the nasty "liberal media" is bizarre. How come when people simply REPORT what these people are up to -- i.e. posting suggestive pictures on "escort" sites, or being recorded having crude phone sex with a work colleague, or sexually harassing subordinates, etc -- how they can back away from weird shit they did and STILL claim to stand on high moral ground, I just don't get it.

Something I don't understand -- he is now claiming he was nothing but a web designer -- but have you had a look at his (now deleted) personal web site? Good heavens -- it's the ugliest and most poorly designed thing you can imagine. Hard to imagine anyone hired him for his web skills. So I am skeptical about this, along with the fact his own picture appears...

And now he is claiming that Jesus saved him so none of this is relevant -- how convenient. That's what all of these self-righteous hypocrites claim when they get caught. Sorry, I don't buy it....

[No Exit]

24. Thank you...

I am not surprised--if you are a gay man, as you seem to be saying. Most of the gay men I know are not afraid of satire, even when it involves satirizing a group to which they themselves belong. They are also not, as a rule, stupid. They are capable of understanding that not all gay men (IF Gannon/Guckert is such, which we don't really know) are working for their own best interests.

And they are not afraid of piling on, if it can break the truth wide open.