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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:01 AM
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George explains his thoughts on SS so even you can understand them
"Because the -- all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculate, for example, is on the table; whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be -- or closer delivered to what has been promised."

"Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the -- like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon inflation, as opposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that growth is affected, it will help on the red.

'Okay, better? I'll keep working on it."

"All ideas are on the table except running up the payroll tax. And I don't care whether it's a Democrat idea, Republican idea, independent idea, I'm interested in ideas. And so I'm going to say, like I have been saying before to the United States Congress, bring them up. Let's see what you think we ought to do to solve the problem, and I'll work with you. This is not one of these moments where we're trying to gain political advantage. I think this has got to be a moment where people from both parties come together and say, here is a problem."

"The way the system works is that you write a check -- you don't write a check -- they take it out of your check, a payroll tax, and it immediately goes to pay somebody's benefit. That's the way it works. It's a pay-as-you-go system, and we'll discuss that in a minute. What I think you ought to do is be able to take some of the money you're paying in and set up what's called a personal retirement account. First of all, there's the -- there's a simple principle, and it's -- actually, it's your money that's going into the Social Security trust. You're working and you're paying the payroll taxes, and I think some of that money ought to go into a retirement account."

"I think it makes sense to have people feel a stake in the future by owning something. I like the concept of people getting a quarterly statement about how their stocks and bonds are doing in their own personal account."

"Think about private property in an account that you can pass on to who you want, that earns a better return than the current system, and you'll end up with more money."

"Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled."

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:06 AM
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1. Yeah... I understand that... NOT
Maybe if I spoke idiotese? :shrug:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:10 AM
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2. If you know what the issue involves,you can understand what the subject is
And if you understand what the issue involves, you realize that he really is an ignorant moron. If this had something to do with God or War, you know he would be more articulate
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:48 AM
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11. you own the cow -- but it's their milk
does anyone think the repugs would kill a cash cow? bush* himself tapped into Social Security funds following the "trifecta" -- if social security was not there -- where would he have gotten the money to bomb Afghanistan and invade Iraq?

yes, the bushies are saying "it's your money" -- however what they are doing is giving you the cow but they still own the milk

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:12 AM
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3. It is like all that BS is bouncing around in his empty head
and what happens to hit the opening is what comes out, even if it does not make sense.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:12 AM
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4. Let me translate and shorten it for everyone.
"It's your money and I want to make it my money.":shrug:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:16 AM
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5. OHHH! That's what he means by "ownership."
He wants to own it all!

Thanks for the translation. ;)
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:24 AM
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6. The Silverspoon Sociopath is also..
intellectually challenged. Would you buy a used car from this idiot?
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:34 AM
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7. 'It's tough keeping up with that voice in your earpiece.........
KKKarl just talks so durned FAST! I've told him a million times, I can't keep up like a normal person, he's gotta slow down! It's hard work trying to talk and listen at the same time.'
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:35 AM
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8. What's "muddled" is Bush's brain
Seriously, if he doesn't have the intelligence to explain his great Social Security scheme, he shouldn't be trying to shove it down the American public's throats.

And yet there are Americans who are so gullible and stupid that they will go along with this.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:42 AM
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10. Americans who are so gullible and stupid.
Indeed! Millions of 'em voted for this goon. Maybe he make 'em feel smart in comparison?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:40 AM
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9. the man is fucking moron.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:52 AM
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12. Aaammmm.... Isn't that Moran?
Personally I prefer War Criminal myself.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:52 AM
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13. How did you get a hold of my grandson's answer on SS?
He is 9. That was funny. And the people are going to let him also do the budget?
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