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holiday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:48 PM
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Does Bush's SS plan allow
whatever money that is in the private part go to our children?

And also what do people you know think about his SS reform?

Also do you ever bring up to people that if it's such a great plan why didn't he bring it up during election time??

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:50 PM
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1. No. You die, your "account" dies with you
Your survivors get social security that will be decreased by 40%, which is what Dimwit wants to cut it down to.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:52 PM
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2. Who said and where was it printed this weekend that you only keep 2%
of the profits, and that the rest go to the government. I think that would make even a few diehard Republicans twitch.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:54 PM
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4. You only 'keep' the profits above 3% You 'get' to use the rest to buy
an annuity that does not survive you.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 09:01 PM
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6. Is that in the Krugman report? It not, can you post a source
so I can print it out and study it. I don't know as much as I want to on this issue. I need to be knowledgeable.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 09:51 PM
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9. Sorry I can't post a source because aWoL will not publish the details
He is out campaigning for SSI reform and refuses to present the details. The only thing you get is bits and pieces.
That being said check here

<http://www.moveon.org/front/>
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:04 PM
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10. Because of their objection to factcheck.org, I ended up going over there
The front page is full of their usual back and forth debunking. Probably worth a gander. www.factcheck.org.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:52 PM
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3. aWoL's plan does not allow death benefits for the children
He requires you to buy a lifetime annuity that enriches the Insurance companies and ends at your death.

And also what do people you know think about his SS reform?
It is a rip off.

Also do you ever bring up to people that if it's such a great plan why didn't he bring it up during election time??

Why can't he tell us the details now?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:54 PM
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5. Reportedly, the only way togo to your kids, is if you die before retire
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 09:02 PM
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7. Not only won't your children get a penny of your private account...
...thanks to the coming collapse of our health insurance system, you won't have a penny of any assets to pass on, as astronomical health care costs bankrupt seniors left and right.

My advice, get the hell to Canada, stat.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 09:50 PM
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8. Bush's SS plan is designed to bankrupt SS, it fulfills what he...
...claims is happening which actually would not happen if the current program is followed. Bush is lying!
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