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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:39 AM
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ya heard it from me 1st Chief Justice REHNQUIST is "DEEP THROAT"
not GHW bush not pat buchannan ..it is Rehnquist!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:41 AM
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1. I don't understand, you mean "deep throat" of Nixon/Watergate?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:43 AM
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3. that's what the OP means, there is a big discussion on DT going on
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:46 AM
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6. thanks AZ just found it .. i had just login and already posted this thread
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 11:48 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
:shrug:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:44 AM
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4. yes that "deep throat"
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:16 PM
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14. Can you ever imagine Scalia ever making this kind of sacrifice for
his country?
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:42 AM
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2. How do you know this or are you speculating?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:44 AM
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5. When I was reading last night
the thread here and one of the clues was that the man is currently sick,
Rehnquist is the person I thought of. I didn't put it in the thread because I was hoping soooooo much that it was the head of the BFEE who was sick, that I just dismissed it from my mind.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:47 AM
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7. This is how I know it's not Pat Buchanan.
He denied it. No matter how much I disagree with him, I find him to be one of the most honest people in politics.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:49 AM
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8. Hmm...John Dean claims that Woodward has said that "Throat" is ailing
That would be a grisly bit of symbolism, due to the nature of his illness. I wonder how the right will respond when the person's actually revealed; will he be viewed as a traitor to the cause or will all be forgiven if he's one of the faithful? Lest we forget, he might lie; after all, Woodward's a reactionary apologist. If he does, though, I'll bet Bernstein will come forward to set him straight.

You can count on the serious wingers to call it foul play to out someone who's dead, even when they saw no problem with Novakula ratting out Matsui. We shall see...

(Personally, I always thought it was Poppy; it's his underhanded, opportunistic style.)
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:08 PM
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12. Maybe all it means is that we don't yet know that Poppy is ill.
but I think it's narrowed down to Renquist and Bush Sr. I'd go with Bush Sr. and that in the months ahead we'll learn that he's battling some life threatening disease.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 01:13 PM
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21. Or Bush Sr. has asked Rehnquist to take the fall for him in exchange
the Bushes will take care of his family and make them very rich, indeed.

Wouldn't put it past them to do this. Woodward and Bernstein know they can't buck Poppy's wishes.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:46 PM
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25. Or Rehnquist bought his "Chief Just-Ass" title by agreeing...
...to take the fall for Poppy the Criminal.

NGU.


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 04:37 PM
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32. aaaahhhhhhh......very likely.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:53 AM
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9. This is SUCH fascinating speculation. He IS, INDEED, ailing.
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 12:02 PM by calimary
And he certainly was there at the correct place at the correct time. It doesn't seem at all far-fetched. Who else do we know who's of that era, and was a player in that game (albeit a minor one - how better to move fairly easily below the radar?) and is now old and sick? Ford? Hardly. And it sure ain't the Pope...

BTW - LOVE your buttons. Where'd you get 'em?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:53 AM
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10. uhm, what an interesting possibility!
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:58 AM
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11. what are the logistics of it, we need motive
i am sure he had a lot of reasons to do it. he did seem like a nixon loyalist to me. but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:15 PM
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13. Too late. I said it yesterday.
And, actually, somebody said it before me.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:23 PM
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16. TBC yes you did but i was not here yesterday & was too hasty when i login
:toast: to you and whoeverelse said it!
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candle_bright Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:19 PM
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15. I just had a weird thought
Since the identity Deep Throat is only to be revealed upon his/her death...how will we know if it's really true because the person will no longer be able to defend him/herself! :tinfoilhat:

(Unless Woodward has rock-solid video or other evidence of course!)

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:36 PM
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17. Jimmy Stewart (a man with heart) died of a broken heart.
Robert Mitchum, famous for smoking pot, died of lung disease.

Now, it looks like Deep Throat is going to die from throat cancer.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:33 PM
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22. apropos
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:36 PM
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18. A question
Where was Rehnquist working at the time of Watergate? Does he smoke or was the smoking part just a diversion by W and B?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:38 PM
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19. Was Rehnquist a Nixon insider?
My Watergate memory is failing me.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:44 PM
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20. a little nixon rehnquist recap.....
After receiving his JD, Rehnquist traveled to Washington to serve as a clerk to Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson during the 1952-53 session. During his tenure, he drafted a memo for Justice Jackson that stated racial segregation in education was "right and should be affirmed." The memo later became an issue during his Senate confirmation hearings in 1971, where he argued that he had drafted the document to express the views of the justice and not his own.

Following the Supreme Court clerkship, Justice Rehnquist returned West, settling into a private practice in Phoenix, Arizona. He stayed there from 1953-1969, working at several law firms.
While in Phoenix, he was active in local politics and became friends with Richard Kleindeist, who later became Deputy Attorney General in the Nixon Administration. With Kleindeist's help, Rehnquist returned to Washington when Richard Nixon appointed him to serve as Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Affair in the Department of Justice.

Two years later, President Nixon nominated Rehnquist to be an associate justice on the Supreme Court, filling the seat vacated by an ailing John Harlan. He served as a justice on the bench until 1986 when President Ronald Reagan nominated him to replace retiring Chief Justice Warren Burger.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:37 PM
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23. Isn't Gerald Ford sick?
He was at big dawg's library opening or the inaug?

Just wondering? :shrug:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:42 PM
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24. I think Ford IS sick but the family is keeping it
private. So that could mean a toss-up between Ford and Rehnquist, if the purported DT is on death's doorstep?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:50 PM
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26. I just don't see it a Rehnquist, but then again, if it is that would
explain why he made sure the weed was given the job. Let's say CIA director GHWB discovered that it was R, he threatened to release the info, which could have resulted in an investigation of R, as a lawyer, was his leak ethical, legal? Could he face impeachment? Wouldn't repukes turn against him and impeach him? :shrug:

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:57 PM
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29. you have to remember that just before the democratic headquarters break in
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 03:06 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
horrible news was about to break that would expose the republicans for what they truly were (Nazi loving, fascists)...(sigline applies here)

before the break-in at the Democratic Party Headquarters on June 17, 1972, the Republicans were on the brink of having their pro-Nazi activities over the past four decades become a matter of mass-media attention. After the Watergate Break-in, as the Congressional Hearings began to reveal the slush-funds, money-laundering, illegal corporate campaign contributions, the political sabotage of the 1972 Presidential election process, the involvement of ITT and the Nixon Administration into the assassination of Salvador Allende, the democratically elected president of Chile, and many other aspects of Nixonism, the floodgates of truth were about to open. Only one thing averted this wholesale learning of the truth by the American people: Nixon's resignation and subsequent pardoning by his hand-picked successor, Gerald Ford.


this is why i believe Deep Throat NOT Ford

further reading news that was about to be released and expose the fascist repubs:

There is a very high correlation between CIA domestic subsidies to Fascist 'freedom fighters' during the 1950s and the leadership of the Republican party's ethnic campaign groups. The motive for under-the-table financing was clear: Nixon used Nazis to offset the Jewish vote for the Democrats.

"In 1952 Nixon had formed an Ethnic Division within the Republican National Committee. 'Displaced Fascists, hoping to be returned to power by an Eisenhower-Nixon "liberation" policy signed on' with the committee. In 1953, when Republicans were in office, the immigration laws were changed to admit Nazis, even members of the SS. They flooded into the country. Nixon himself oversaw the new immigration program. As vice president, he even received Eastern European Fascists in the White House. After a long, long journey, the Croatian Nazis had found a new home in the United States, where they reestablished their networks.

"In 1968 Nixon promised that if he won the presidential election, he would create a permanent ethnic council within the Republican party. Previously the Ethnic Division was allowed to surface only during presidential campaigns. Nixon's promise was carried out after the 1972 election, during Bush's tenure as chairman of the Republican National Committee. The Croatian Ustashis became an integral part of the campaign structure of Republican politics, along with several other Fascist organizations." (4)

The authors describe Nixon's pro-Nazi activities in no uncertain terms: "Nixon himself personally recruited ex-Nazis for his 1968 presidential campaign. Moreover, Vice President Nixon became the point man for the Eisenhower administration on covert operations and personally supervised Allen Dulles's projects while Ike was ill in 1956 and 1957." (5)

One of the Nazis recruited by candidate Nixon was Laszlo Pasztor, described by Aarons and Loftus as "the founding chair of Nixon's Republican Heritage Groups council" who, "during World War II . . . was a diplomat in Berlin representing the Arrow Cross government of Nazi Hungary, which supervised the extermination of the Jewish population.

"During Nixon's 'Four More Years' campaign in 1971-1972, Laszlo Pasztor again played a key role in marshaling the ethnic vote. No longer a marginal player on the fringes, now he held a key position as the Republican National Committee's nationalities director. . . .

"The Republican leadership cannot claim ignorance as a defense. Anderson's famous expose of Nixon's Nazis appeared in 'The Washington Post' at the same time as the November 1971 convention. Among those mentioned was Laszlo Pasztor, 'the industrious head of the GOP ethnic groups, was never asked about his wartime activities in Hungary by the four GOP officials who interviewed him for his job.' It was too embarrassing for Nixon to admit that Pasztor had been a ranking member of a Fascist government at war with the United States.

". . . . It is one thing to promote obscure Eastern European Fascist movements in the Republican party. It is quite another to let the German Nazis have a major influence. After 1953, the Republican administration changed the rules, and even members of the Waffen SS could immigrate to the United States as long as they claimed only to have fought the Communists on the Eastern Front." (7)

The Republican/Nixon attraction to Nazism was also observed by Robert J. Groden and Harrison Edward Livingstone, authors of the book, "High Treason," dealing with the Kennedy Assassination. Groden and Livingstone write: "Nixon surrounded himself with what was known as the Berlin Wall, a long succession of advisors with Germanic names: We recall at the top of his 'German General Staff' as it was also known, Haldeman, Erlichman, Krogh, Kliendienst, Kissinger (the Rockefellers' emissary) and many others.

"The selection of German names was no accident. Many of the brighter staff people close to Nixon came to him from the University of Southern California, and the University of California at Los Angeles, where there were fraternities that kept alive the vision of a new Reich. America has for a long time harbored this dark side of its character, one of violence and the Valhalla of Wagner and Hitler.

"But Gordon Liddy was the one in whose mind 'Triumph of the Will' was the most alive. Some of these men would watch the great Nazi propaganda films in the basement of the White House until all hours of the night, and drink, in fact, get drunk with their power, with blind ambition, as one of them wrote." (8)

"According to several of our sources in the intelligence community who were in a position to know," continue Loftus and Aarons, "the secret rosters of the Republican party's Nationalities Council read like a Who's Who of Fascist fugitives. The Republican's Nazi connection is the darkest secret of the Republican leadership. The rosters will never be disclosed to the public. As will be seen in Chapter 16 dealing with George Bush, the Fascist connection is too widespread for damage control.

"According to a 1988 study by Russ Bellant of Political Research Associates, virtually all of the Fascist organizations of World War II opened up a Republican party front group during the Nixon administration. The caliber of the Republican ethnic leaders can be gauged by one New Jersey man, Emanuel Jasiuk, a notorious mass murderer from what is today called the independent nation of Belarus, formerly part of the Soviet Union. But not all American ethnic communities are represented in the GOP's ethnic section; there are no black or Jewish heritage groups. . . .

"The truth is that the Nazi immigrants were 'tar babies' that no one knew how to get rid of. Dulles had brought in a handful of the top emigre politicians in the late 1940s. They in turn sponsored their friends in the 1950s. By the 1960s ex-Nazis who had originally fled to Argentina were moving to the United States. . . ." (9)



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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 05:08 PM
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33. Where is this text coming from?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 03:12 PM
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30. Merh, you can't possibly
believe politics could get that dirty, do you? I kid...:)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 03:18 PM
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31. Of course not, {{cough, cough}}
But don't you think that if it was that dirty, I mean, I'm just speculating here, that if it was the Rehnnie, he was getting some of his stuff from the CIA and GHWB knew it or found out about it when he became director. Then poppy had a private meeting with Rehnnie, let him know that he had him by his ethical testes and told him in effect, you are mine and you will do my bidding or I will release the proof I have and you will be impeached. (Has a member of SCOTUS ever been impeached?)

Rehnnie, knowing that all repukes would turn on him, thanked poppy for the heads up and has done his bidding ever since. :shrug: I mean, of course, if politics was dirty.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:53 PM
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27. I doubt it. Rhenquist was gone from the exec branch by 1/72 ...
months before the breakin and a year before the thing started coming unraveled.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:56 PM
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28. Question? Why would ANYONE think DT is GHWB?
He was heavily imbedded in the CIA but he was far more heavily imbedded in Nixons BS. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz should have been implicated and convicted for watergate crimes IMHO. I'm still not sure how their participation has been covered up so well. I'm not really sure I can even begin to speculate on the true identy of DT, but GHWB is SURELY out of the running!

Rehnquist is hard to imagine, but not nearly as far-fetched as poppy!
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