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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:46 PM
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RUMSFELD TWICE OFFERED TO RESIGN
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050203/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/rumsfeld_1

Translation: had our side pressed the issue, he'd be gone by now.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:47 PM
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1. the problem the democrats have is the democrats
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:49 PM
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2. Maybe now Kerry can
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 08:50 PM by FreedomAngel82
do his peitition? Any word on that? I, personally, don't know about that. Iraq is his war. Without him Bush is clueless about it.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:51 PM
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3. Kerry has been calling for his head forever now.
Even if he goes, big deal.

The whole bushel is rotten. The next guy in would be just as bad.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:55 PM
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7. How does anyone know if our side is pushing for it
when no one pays them any heed. Eh, it's just the Minority party, pay them no mind.

Indeed, Kerry even has a petition out. Is it time to repost the link? Have y'all signed? I'd like it if everyone who wants the bum out signed. As with Sinclair, we're awesome in numbers.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 04:55 AM
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14. Sure, repost that link. I'll sign.
Won't do any good, but I'll sign anyway.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:56 PM
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22. Like Chicken soup, it can't hurt: The link
http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/rumsfeld2.php

G'head. It might help.

You can't win if you don't play.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 04:09 PM
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29. Signed, but again, don't think it'll do any good.
b**sh doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks, flat-out.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 04:15 PM
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30. I know
but anything that damages Bush politically and let's others know how much support Bush doesn't have is a good thing.

Like I said, can't hurt might help.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 05:51 AM
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16. I remember signing so many petitions, I stopped for fear I'd dupe
MoveOn, TrueMajority, CommonCause, one every five minutes. And tonight on my local news, the fact that hundreds of thousands of people had signed these was reported.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:51 PM
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4. Rummy should have tried for three times
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NGU Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:54 PM
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5. What a missed opportunity the Dems had?
Are the Dem leaders just going to bend over and grab their knees every time or will someone stand up for the people?
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:54 PM
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6. He did nothing of the sort
To believe something like that is to not be paying attention. Which is exactly why this story is being created; for the people who don't pay close attention. "Oh, look, Rumsfeld felt bad. He was willing to resign. We should cut him some slack." All the while, he's coming up with his own personal hit squad.

They play with the mind quite well.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:59 PM
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11. No shit!!
You think Rummy would give up power so easily. No damn way. They'll have to pry it out of his cold, dead hands. Actually, his hands already look pretty cold and dead, so I suppose we might as well go for it now.

Sign the Rummy petition at johnkerry.com! Somebody's calling for Rummy's resignation. Let's add our voice to his.

But I agree. Something is going to have to happen again for the shitstorm to build back up to a pitch sufficient to oust Rummy. He's not going without a fight.

Why is it so many buy immediately into the misinformation campaign. We know they lie. Why do some of us buy it time and again?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 03:02 PM
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24. I agree AG78
Watch the PBS documentary "Rumsfeld's War." It's about Iraq and how Bush is really clueless and Rummy told him "don't worry, I'll handle everything" so I doubt that's happened. That's like when Bush and Rummy said he was compassionate. LOL!!! I don't believe ANYTHING any of those pro-Bush/right wingers say.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:56 PM
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8. Bush would proabably have him wacked before that would happen
Letting Rummy go: impossible. It would look badly on the whole war. hah hah. It would be percieved as a defeat, and as we know from Ohio, that chance of even that perception is never ever ALLOWED. Get it straight, people. Bush does not fail.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 03:04 PM
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25. And Rummy would never go alone
I'm convienced by that. He'd bring down the whole administration with him. At least Bush anyways. He might cover Cheney since they have a past with other Presidents.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:58 PM
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9. If at first you don't succeed Rummy, try, try, again
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:58 PM
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10. And you believe Rummy? Please.
He might have talked about it in passing but I don't think he ever "offered to resign twice" .This is Bushspeak. Like we "didn't dicuss whether I would serve the full term" Like someone asks you to serve half a term. Give me a break! Rummy is trying to rehabilitate his image. He thinks "People like Bush. Bush likes me. People like me"
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:49 PM
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12. Either way...
its time for a unified and sustained call for his resignation. Hot many times does the iron have to get hot?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 04:39 AM
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13. Instead of just offering, just do it!
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 05:24 AM
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15. Rummy serves at the pleasure of the President; Bush could have dumped
him if he wanted to regardless if he offered to resign or not. Also Rummy could have resigned. Either way, they're both responsible for him being and remaining there. This story is just noise for the public, IMO.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 05:53 AM
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17. Of course. Taking the heat off the Gonzales hearings. n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:04 AM
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20. EVERYONE submits their resignation at the end of a term
...and the Prez tells them whether he wants them to stay or go. You do it automatically, and most times a lacky like Card or Rove will just send your letter back with a note saying we want you to stay on. Sometimes, people in the less important jobs get the shock of their lives when their resignation is actually accepted, because they get bumped for a pal of a big contributor.

Democracy, what a system! It's like the Sopranos with some of those political jobs!
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:21 AM
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21. More proof of Bush's incompetence.
Too stupid to realize what a crummy SecDef Rumsfeld is.

And I agree that this is just noise. Note that we are also hearing RUMSFELD announce that some troops are coming home. Rehabilitation of a whack job.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:00 AM
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18. Silly Rummy, doesn't he realize that it's THREE TIMES A CHARM? n/t
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:03 AM
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19. meaningless rubbish
self-serving garbage.
How do we know this is true?
--->we can't
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:59 PM
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23. We did press it. Bush won't allow the perception of error. It's like the
Hotel California, you can NEVER leave.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 03:05 PM
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26. I don't think so. I think Bush needs him.
Who else is crazy enough to keep going with Bush's nutty world domination schemes?

Even so, Rumsfeld is Cheney's other half from the Ford Administration.

Those two are the real President.

It's like the people who talked about Cheney getting dumped for the re-election...never would have happened.

Those guys ARE the foreign policy.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 03:06 PM
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27. BULLSHIT. There isn't a shred of truth to any of this.
Rummy is the old guard, and he's been trying to increase his purview since he was confirmed. He's sent numerous memos to the White House trying to influence State policy, and his ego and belief of entitlement are shocking in their dimensions. This is an extreme lie.

Junior may or may not like him, but as Cheney's guy and Junior hasn't any say. If Rummy actually tendered his resignation at some point (or two) he did it as a grandstanding formality. Rummy is more powerful than Bush, and that's mandated by Cheney. Make no mistake about it.

Beyond that, Don is such a uber-masculine thug that he'd never admit a mistake or accept culpability in any way that this suggests.

This is a Hitlerian big lie. What cover he's seeking, or for what reason is the topic for another conversation. Maybe this should be viewed in light of the recent resignation of Doug Feith: there might be something afoot that insiders are trying to distance themselves from.

Bullshit, pure and simple. Do you really believe that this little man's over-sized ego would ever permit him to willingly do such a thing? Hahahahahahahahahaha!

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 03:18 PM
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28. Go to post 22 and sign the petition
I just reposted the link.

Like Chicken Soup for a Democrat's Soul, it can't hurt and it might help.
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