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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:35 PM
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Seriously. Why did it take a woman to....
stand up to Rice and to challenge the electoral votes from Ohio? And why did the BCC stand alone in 2000 against the travesty that was Florida?

Is there something about womens' or African Americans' status as outsiders that make them more willing to stand up? Perhaps they feel that they have zero hope of fitting in in any way with this regime, so they're more willing to rock the boat. The white males may feel that they "belong" somehow .

What do you think?
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:41 PM
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1. I think your correct to say...
they somehow don't feel part of the system and are truly trying to change that. At least I think that is partly the reason.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:42 PM
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2. If you are black, female, or gay, you get used to having your key
issues put on the back burner.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:49 PM
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3. ...and to having to fight harder
to get them heard.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:52 PM
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5. And yet we still vote Dem. Why, again?
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:13 PM
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6. That's The Key
It's a shame that we have to link her backbone with her gender but there we are.
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DETERMINEDPROGRESIVE Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:49 PM
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4. Not sure if it is the Reality,
But they would seem to have to work harder to prove themselves. Kinda like the short guy in the bar that can fight twice as hard as the big guy, ya know?
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:16 PM
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7. Nobody wants to get called a racist, and that's what Boxer got called,
more or less directly, by Condi and her GOP supporters in the senate.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:24 PM
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9. Good point.
I didn't even see that coming, and was shocked when Andrew Young piled on.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:23 PM
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8. I wish we had a Black woman to challenge Rice
it seems more fitting that way. But Boxer did a great job. good for her

The CBC (or BCC?) stood alone because they felt black people were disenfranchised. People have a natural tendency to stand up for their own people. It would have been nice for Wellstone, Kerry, or even Holy Joementum himself to stand up in 2000 but they all knew it was futile. And perhaps they didn't expect Bush to be such an asshole.
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