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kuozzman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:45 PM
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HOLY CRAP! CNN has no shame today!
I'm really getting sick of seeing Iraqis dancing in the street. I certainly don't have a problem with them doing that and I think it's great, but the fact that they're replaying over and over and over and over and over is really pissing me off. Not to mention the fact that they're talking about a "high turnout", which is certainly not true, especially in the Sunni areas or the fact that over a dozen suicide attacks were carried out or that cameras were only allowed at five polling stations out of over 30,000. Now they are interviewing injuted soldiers (amputees) who are saying that if we pull out too soon, that all those who were injured or killed did so "in vein".

God damn Liberal media!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:47 PM
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1. And how would this be different from any other day? Great post.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:40 AM
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25. Careful, most of shots of dancing took place outside of Iraq.
the shots were of the ex-pats in most instances.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:50 PM
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2. Too many have no where else to dance
since we flattened their homes

Wish some clever hacker could ammend CNN's satellite feed. Wouldn't THAT be refreshing? Some reality in the news? Think it would catch on?

All injuries and deaths were in vain. I know, most folks just have to believe there was a reason for losing loved ones, but the real reason is not gonna appeal to most. I am mad as hell that tens of thousands have died so some fat cats can get fatter.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:02 PM
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17. Why don't they show areas
where there's violence? I guess the whole area is free of it for the day. :eyes: I was watching a bit of "Hardball" earlier to see what they were talking about and they had a reporter and some general guy on there talking. The reporter was saying some areas had low turn outs cause of all the violence and other areas had high turn outs. Of course they never tell the whole truth. :eyes:
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GHOSTDANCER Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:51 PM
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3. Today?
We can't even trust our own election process here in the US,let alone the one taking place in Iraq. It's riddled with opportunities for US backed candidate to win. It's just a cover up to a long drawn out coup and even if US backed candidate isn't elected the US will still do what ever it wants.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:03 PM
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18. And they even have
a better election process better than us! They have ten days to count all the votes and will count the ballots and then go through and count the votes. And they have paper ballots!!!! They've got it better than us! *sigh*
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:52 PM
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4. "Today"??? CNN has no shame.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:53 PM
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5. Well, Wolfie has four hours to
kill today. Gotta fill the time somehow. Sure ain't going to report the real news.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:53 PM
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6. NPR, too. Realize the mainstream media is the PR wing of the BFEE.
Always has been and always will be, probably.

This morning NPR promoted both the Iraqi 'election' and signing up with the military.

Several 'dancing in the streets' and festivity pieces and, transparently, a story about a pianist who played for Bing Crosby and flew a bomber in WWII, dripping with 'Good War' nostalgia with heroic old b&w movie imagery.

Total propaganda stories on the glory of fake elections and permanent war.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:56 PM
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7. Mission Accomplished/Falling Statue/Saddams Capture/Bush Election...
...Iraq Elections...

Its a series of media "landmarks" that are designed make us feel like we are going somewhere and that "things will be better once we get over this hump..."

Meanwhile, the fighting continues and seems to get worse.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:00 PM
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8. What I want to know is why they aren't talking about the millions who
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 04:01 PM by Dark
DIDN'T vote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4220551.stm

"Electoral officials estimated that up to eight million Iraqis voted - more than 60% of those registered.

-snip-

But reports from central Sunni cities, such as Falluja, Samarra and Ramadi, say not all polling stations opened, and there was at best a trickle of voters.

Fox, of course, only mentions the good news. They don't even touch on the above.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145825,00.html

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:04 PM
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19. You better believe
they won't talk about that. No way they'd bring bad news for George Bush. He doesn't want it.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:02 PM
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9. Why worry?


The killing will not stop.

Another mission accomplished by Bush!!

Let him tell them to "Bring it on" again!!!

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:17 PM
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11. They have found 300,000 graves in Iraq, attributed to Saddam
regime. I thank God that has been stopped. And thanks to
the 400,000 Americans soldiers who died fighting Hitler,
the Europeans do not have the Third Reich to contend with.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:32 PM
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14. You really think less will be killed
with a puppet government installed by US? Chalabi is a criminal (embezzlement), Allawi is an assassin (close ties to Saddam)-and these are our friends! If history shows us anything, it's that today's friendly puppet regimes are tomorrow's enemies. Never, not once, has a regime installed by the US ever worked. Keep believing the lie that Saddam would have killed more than US has in the same amount of time.
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:59 PM
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16. If we (the US) hand picks a puppet regime, that would be a
bloody mistake! I am hoping we will let the Iraq's pretty much
elect their government.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:05 PM
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20. I hope
but I'm not betting on it.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:47 AM
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26. How about Italy, Germany & Japan in the late 40's?
Those governments were certainly installed by the USA, and they do seem to have worked. "Never" is a pretty extreme word.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:05 AM
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22. These figures are wrong as was contained

in several reports released recently!!

Even so, how many of those were caused by direct collaboration with the US?

And how many were caused after the let down by Bush Sr.?

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:13 PM
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10. Every media outlet will toe the party line.
After weeks of building us up for massive bombings and protests - just in case everything went to hell - the very fact that there isn't as much chaos as predicted is going to be colored as a HUGE victory for the Bush Regime.

No matter that the turnout was about 30-40% - less than an average American election - in SOME areas it was 70, 80, even 90%!!!!! (So an apartment building in the Green Zone had all its residents bused to a polling place under heavy guard, they still turned out at 90%!)

The propagandists will say that the Iraqi election is an outstanding historic success. When the Iraqi Civil War starts two years from now, they'll act surprised and amazed - and won't link Bush's idiotic POLICIES to the destruction.
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:20 PM
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12. Yes, Bush will be described as the greatest liberator since Kemal Pasha
of Turkey, Roosevelt liberating Europeans from Hitler and
Asians from the king of Japan.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:14 PM
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21. Don't kid yourself. Bush can't even visit the UK freely.
After the Dayton peace accords, Clinton went to Bosnia and took his wife and daughter with him. They all talked to people in the streets.

As for Bush, he was whisked into Iraq for his Thanksgiving turkey photo op and whisked out again. If he was really viewed as a liberator, don't you think he could make a visit to an Iraqi city or two and do an official event?

When Bush made his glorious state visit to the United Kingdom, one of our oldest and closest allies, he had to be kept pretty much behind the Buckingham Palace gates. I think he finally did a walkabout in some village in England, but otherwise he was kept at a distance from the thousands of protesters.

Heck, even I've been within arm's length of the queen and Prince Philip. It's not as though even the royals are subject to such security.

So don't hold your breath waiting for Bush to be hailed as the liberator. He merely gives lip service to the idea of freedom, but he's damned sure that he keeps himself insulated, unaccountable, and uncriticized. This is not the stuff of democracy.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:18 AM
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23. What's your souce for the
30-40% figure?
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KissMeKate Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:21 PM
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13. Im happy they are dancing-
it distracts them from their lack of clean water, electricity, and gasoline.

If dancing makes Iraqis feel better, at least momentarily, I say, dance.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:32 PM
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15. NBC
Has broken into football game 3 times!:argh:
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:07 AM
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24. Faked footage again according to am independent reporter there
The part about the CNN camera crew is sickening.

Posted in full with Dahr's permission (posted at end). If you would like to donate to this excellent reporter, please go here

"Here comes “The Freedom”"

My friend from Baquba visited me yesterday. He brought the usual giant lunch of home cooked food he always brings when he comes to see me. I’m still eating it, actually. I had it again for dinner tonight. Ah, the typical Iraqi meal.

He owns four large tents, and rents them to people in his city to use at funeral wakes, marriage parties, tribal negotiation meetings and to cover gardens, among other things.

During the Anglo-American invasion of his country back in the spring of 2003, when refugees from Baghdad sought shelter from the falling bombs, many of the families inundated his city. After his house was filled with refugees, he let others use his tents, for free of course.

Refugees from Fallujah are using them now.

At least 35 US soldiers have died in Iraq today. 31 of them died when a Chinook went down near the Jordanian border. At least four others died in clashes in the al-Anbar province. A patrol on the airport road was bombed, destroying at least one military vehicle. The military hasn’t released any casualty figures on that one yet.

“Bring ‘em on,” said George Bush quite some time ago, when the Iraqi resistance had begun to pick up the pace.

Today, during a press conference he spoke about the upcoming elections in Iraq.

“Clearly there are some who are intimidated,” he said, “I urge alls (not a typo) people to vote.”

Let me describe the scene on the ground here in “liberated” Iraq.

With the “elections” just three days away, people are terrified. Families are fleeing Baghdad much as they did prior to the invasion of the country. Seeking refuge from what everyone fears to be a massive onslaught of violence in the capital city, huge lines of cars are stacked up at checkpoints on the outer edges of the city.

Policemen and Iraqi soldiers are trying to convince people to stay in the city and vote.

Nobody is listening to them.

Whereas Baghdad is filled with Fallujah refugees, now villages and smaller cities on the outskirts of Baghdad are filling up with election refugees.


Yet these places aren’t safe either. In Baquba attacks on polling stations are a near daily occurrence. Mortar attacks are common on polling stations even as far south as Basra. A truck bomb struck a Kurdish political party headquarters in a small town near Mosul, killing 15 people, wounding twice that many. A string of car bombs detonated at polling stations in Kirkuk, which was already under an 8pm-5am curfew, killing 10 Iraqis.

Here in Baghdad, although the High Commission for Elections in Iraq has yet to announce their locations, schools which are being converted into polling stations are already being attacked.

Iraqis who live near these schools are terrorized at the prospect.

“They can block the whole city and people cannot move,” says a man speaking to me on condition of anonymity, “The city is dead, the people are dead. For what? For these forced elections!”

He is angry and frustrated because his street is now blocked as he lives near a small yellow middle school that is going to be used as a polling station.

Nearby some US soldiers are occupying a police station, as usual. One of them saw me taking photos and tried to confiscate my camera.

It didn’t matter that I showed him my press badge. After some talking he let me delete the photos and move on, camera in hand.

Sand barriers block the end of a street, the school where the insides are already in disrepair sits just behind them.

At least 90 streets in Baghdad are now closed down by huge sand and/or concrete barriers and razor wire. The number is growing daily.

“Now I’m afraid mortars will hit my home if the polling station is attacked,” he adds. He’ll be moving across town to stay at a relative’s house, which is not near one of the dreaded polling stations.

An owner of a small grocery shop nearby is just as concerned. He had to negotiate with soldiers to have them leave an opening on the end of the barrier so people could access his place of business.

“I’m already living off my food ration, and have little business,” he says while pointing at the deserted street, “Now who wants to come near my shop? All of us are afraid, and all of us are suffering now.”

A tired looking guard standing nearby named Salman chimes in on the conversation. “I would be crazy to vote, it’s so dangerous now,” he says with a cigarette dangling from his hand, “Besides, why vote? Of course Allawi will stay in. The Americans will make it so.”

A contact of mine just returned from spending a week in Fallujah. We shared some of the food brought from my friend in Baquba.

“I’d been in Fallujah for a week and all I’d seen was tough military tactics,” he tells me, “They are arresting people and putting them in these trucks, blindfolded and tied up. Everywhere I looked all I saw was utter devastation.”

He spoke with many families who told him one horror story after another, death after death after death.

“Then today, the military brings in a dozen Humvees and ground troops to basically seal off a small area near a market,” he continues, “In the middle of them is a CNN camera crew filming troops throwing candy to kids and these guys in orange vests start cleaning the streets around them.”

He laughs while holding up his arms and says, “I’d never seen those guys anywhere in the city before. I don’t know where they came from.”

After a pause to take a drink of soda he adds, “I’d never seen any boots on the ground at all, and all of the sudden there are all these marines standing around like everything was ok. It was the first time I’d seen any soldier not in a Humvee or a Bradley. I was really surprised.”

“All of it was 100% staged. Good PR before the election,” he says. Then in a reference to mainstream America he adds, “Fallujah is fine, now go back to sleep.”

http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/archives/dispatches/000186.php#more

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News From Inside Iraq
Weary of the overall failure of the US media to accurately report on the realities of the war in Iraq for the Iraqi people and US soldiers, Dahr Jamail went to Iraq to report on the war himself.

His dispatches were quickly recognized as an important media resource and he is now writing for the Inter Press Service, The NewStandard and many other outlets. His reports have also been published with The Nation, The Sunday Herald and Islam Online, to name just a few. Dahr's dispatches and hard news stories have been translated into Polish, German, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, Portuguese and Arabic. On the radio, Dahr is a special correspondent for Flashpoints and reports for the BBC, Democracy Now!, and numerous other stations around the globe.

Dahr has spent a total of 8 months in occupied Iraq as one of only a few independent US journalists in the country. Dahr uses the DahrJamailIraq.com website and his popular mailing list to disseminate his dispatches.

Get more information about Dahr in his interview in Newtopia Magazine.

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Permission granted to post in full:

----Original Message Follows----
From: Dahr Jamail
Reply-To: xxx@dahrjamailiraq.com
To: xxx@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Contact From the Dahr Jamail Iraq Web Site
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:37:37 +0300

Thanks a lot xxx,

Please post whatever of my work you like and keep up the great work.

Best,

Dahr


website@dahrjamailiraq.com wrote:

>The following message was sent to you from a visitor to
>DahrJamailIraq.com. The person entered: xxx@hotmail.com
>as the return email address. If you reply to this message, it will
>be sent to xxx@hotmail.com.
>
>******
>Hello Dahr,
>
>First I need to tell you how AWED I am of the good work you\'re
>doing in keeping us informed of what\'s really going on in Iraq- not
>that we would believe the mainstream media for one minute but your
>information is VERY important to the antiwar movement.
>
>I would like your permission to repost some of your writings at the
>reasonably Leftist web-site www.democraticunderground.com. Most of
>the posters there are passionately antiwar and have been fighting
>this madness for years.
>
>I am trying to fight that creeping propaganda from the
>right-wing. I promise to give you FULL credit with a link taking
>people back to your site (which I\'ve already been extensively
>advertising). The site has over 60,000 registered users (though I\'d
>warrant only about 2000 are active) and many lurkers. Would you
>please allow me to repost a few of your blog entries in their
>entirety? I am determined to fight the sickening propaganda that
>there\'s any sort of an \"election\" in Iraq.
>
>God bless you whether you say yes or no. You are a hero in my eyes.
>
>Sincerely and gratefully,
>
> ((me))

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:52 AM
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27. Still Corporate Owned media free here.
Haven't watched since sElection night and I intend to keep it that way.
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