Californians...Feinstein must go!!!!! She has done us a great disservice!

[fooj]

[wryter2000]

1. Yup

I wonder who's good to be a replacement. We have to get her out!

[GreenPoet64]

3. When is her term up?

[feminazi]

4. 2006 i think

[paineinthearse]

6. 2006

[genius]

34. Everyone send her this letter before she votes tomorrow.Maybe it will help

http://patrickhenrythinktank.org/sen-rice.html

AGREEMENT NOT TO RUN FOR RE-ELECTION - TO BE SENT TO THOSE CONSIDERING NOT BLOCKING THE NOMINATION OF CONDOLEEZZA RICE.


I _______________(name of Senator) from the State of ______________(name of state) agree not to run for re-election. Through my failure to oppose the nomination of Condoleezza Rice, I have demonstrated that I lack the intelligence and integrity needed to represent the people of my state. When Condoleezza Rice saw a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined To Attack Inside the United States" prior to 9/11, it did not occur to her that Bin Laden was determined to attack inside the United States. Now, though I may have also lacked the intelligence to make that connection, there are a great many other Americans who do have the intelligence to make that connection who are eligible to become Secretary of State. Ms. Rice helped lead the charge to war with two countries who were less responsible for 9/11 than the incompetence of Ms. Rice. She worked to make the whole world hate us. As a result of the actions of Ms. Rice, Americans are in more danger now than ever before. If Ms. Rice continues this pattern as Secretary of State, the future of all Americans will be in grave danger. I lack the concern for the American people and the integrity to block this nomination and demand we do better. In failing to block this incompetent war-monger of African American origin, I am also demonstrating my racist belief that the best African-American for the job is a stupid war-mongerer and that we can find no better African-American for the job. In conclusion, I will never again run for public office because I am a stupid, gullible Senator who has no concern for the welfare of my constituents or the American people.



_________________________(signature of Senator)

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[paineinthearse]

5. Stabenaw (sp?) too. And it has nothing to do with their sex.

Both are democrats in name only, almost on the scale of Hell Miller.

I'm working on a survey for the new Dems forum..........

[DaveinMD]

19. that's a load of crap

Stabenow and even Feinstein have nowhere near the conservative voting record of Zell Miller. You have a right to our opinion, but you don't have the right to your own facts.

[ScreamingMeemie]

24. Our MI Dems have stood together on many an issue. While I am upset

with this vote, I think you are being a tad harsh.

[bahrbearian]

7. You can tell she supports affirmitive action, whens race an issue

when it comes to National Security?

[Guaranteed]

8. LOL a "disservice"...

Did you read my post earlier? :P

[troubleinwinter]

9. Count this Californian IN for getting her OUT.

[Hippo_Tron]

10. I'll be focusing my efforts on the junior senator from Pennsylvania

I kind of wish that my fellow democrats would do the same.

[MasonJar]

11. With 45 to 55 we have better things to do than to work to oust a

Dem. I agree that Santoriun is the one to concentrate on. He is truly dangerous and needs to go in 2006. I am sure that there are other pugs too. Forget about getting rid of powerful Dems.

[Guaranteed]

12. Let's do both.

And Lieberman.

And any other Repug running for re-election.

And PROTECT our good Senators.

[Name removed]

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[MontecitoDem]

13. THANK YOU!

I hope more reasonable heads like you will prevail. Yes, Feinstein can be disappointing to progressives, but she is better than handing California to a repubican. Please, let's fight the obvious enemy first, then work on our own party more when we have a majority again!

[Guaranteed]

14. You're creating a false dichotomy.

We simply run another Democrat against her during the primaries, and nominate them instead of her.

An already popular, well-known Democrat would be best.

[proud patriot]

20. George Clooney and Robert Redford Come to Mind

:D and Loretta Sanchez :loveya:

[Dookus]

21. Alas

I can't think of a single Dem who would beat Feinstein in a primary. Not even close.

Unfortunately, Feinstein will hold her seat as long as she wants it.

[cascadiance]

22. How about putting up Bill Clinton...

against Feinstein in the primaries? Getting someone like Bill as a senator for California would have him be a senator from a state really tough to touch. Though he'd have to live on opposite sides of the country from Hillary... Which from some people's perspectives might be a good thing.

[MontecitoDem]

30. It isn't a false dichotomy

If you run someone against Feinstein, it has to be somebody who polls way better than her statewide - not just among democrats. Otherwise, we probably end up losing the seat in the general election to the repubs. (the "power of incumbency" goes a long way towards winning elections).

Plus, if someone else runs in the primaries against Feinstein, and Feinstein wins, she has been forced to spend a lot of money she would have used (and will need) in the general election. Thus making it easier for the Repubs to defeat her.

Aren't there enough republicans to go after? Can we show some discipline for a few years until we regain our seats and once again become the majority party?

[wryter2000]

16. I can't vote against Santorum

I can work within CA to get a good Democrat to run, instead of Feinstein. IMHO, if we dumped a few DINO's maybe the rest of them would come around to being real Democrats again.

[proud patriot]

15. I will vote for any Democrat who runs against her

she continues to dissappoint me .

but I'd still take her over a puke.

[fooj]

23. Yes. She is very, very disappointing!

[BigBearJohn]

17. I agree. We need new blood.

[John_H]

18. she's going to go to dental school

so she can repair the fast-dropping teeth of the freepers that will try to unseat her.

[Guaranteed]

26. Why would freepers want to do that? They're probably pretty

pleased with what she said today. Unless all they really care about is the (D) next to her name.

[Piperay]

27. The D IS all they care about

anyone with a D next to their name is satanic as far as they are concerned. Of course I feel the same about the R, so ... :shrug:

[Guaranteed]

28. I guess you're right.

:P

[SoCalifer]

25. I Live In So-Cal

My Senator is Barbara Boxer.

When it comes to Dian Feinstein. Back in 2002 when my union, the I.L.W.U., was locked-out from work and she told President Bush to invoke Taft Heartly on us. I had lost any respect I had for her at that time, and she hasn't done any to gain any back for her.

And what surprises me is: She represents Northern California which is quite more liberal than here in So-Cal.

I may not be able to vote for her. But I am an active member within my longshoreman's union, and I can lobby my union brothers and sisters at local 10 in San Francisco.

[Freddie Stubbs]

29. The left wing of the party can whine and complain all it wants, but

when it comes down to it, there isn't a more popular Democrat in California. She will leave the Senate when she wants to leave the Senate, not when the fringe wants her to.

[GRLMGC]

31. I have to agree with you there

She's the most popular Democrat in CA. It's not like it'll be easy to get rid of her during the primaries. I also don't want that seat to go to a Republican. I know, someone's going to say she might as well be a Republican, but in spite of all her faults, she does vote with the Dems on some key issues. What I worry about is that midterm elections don't have high turnout rates. The people who do turn out, unfortunately, are the rightwingers in the interior of CA so I'm afraid we would end up w/ some right wing senator. I don't know. I think Feinstein is staying.

[w4rma]

33. Sen. Boxer is more popular in CA.

And if you listen to right-wingers they despise Feinstien because they consider her a gun grabber. Feinstein's name comes up as often as Sen. Kennedy's name does. This is not the case for Sen. Boxer, who is more moderate on gun-control.

[MontecitoDem]

36. I'd have to disagree

but if you have stats I will gladly apologize.

Boxer may be more popular among dems, but certainly not statewide, and not here in SoCal where I live. Boxer is being attacked daily, and viciously, in our local papers.

[radio4progressives]

37. Boxer Got OVER a Million and Half More votes than Feinstein 2004 elections

And Feinstein's money is feeding the Media Machine in attacking Boxer. And of course the media is enjoying attacking Boxer.

She did what THEY were supposed to do and FAILED MISERABLY.

[MontecitoDem]

38. Boxer ran against an idiot who had no campaign

and in a year where Californians were mobilized to go to the polls for Kerry.

Sorry. I don't buy it.

Haven't heard that Feinstein was funding the "media machine in attacking Boxer." Any citation for that?

I love Boxer. She rocks. I worked for her campaign.

Feinstein is way too "moderate" for my tastes. But we are idiots if we try to replace a sitting Dem in the Senate right now.

[Freddie Stubbs]

43. The last time a poll was done on both of them,

Feinstien polled better among the general population and among Demcrats.

[genius]

32. True true

[aldian159]

39. How about instead of eating our own

we try to get out guys like Stantorum, Lott, and Frist, who are the real problem, not Feinstein?

[MontecitoDem]

40. Hear Hear!

:thumbsup:


Totally agree in this case.

(Last night I was getting beaten up for saying Shelley should have resigned and tonight I am getting beaten up for saying Feinstein should stay. DU is crazy)

[CWebster]

45. Then why does she endorse their kind

rather than opposing them?

That is the real problem - that she is part of the problem.

[leesa]

41. I want her gone. Who is positioned to run against her?

[MontecitoDem]

42. no one.

that is why this is crazy.

If there was an amazing democrat who could take the state, we'd ALL be for it. There isn't. This is a strategy that will lose us our dem Senate seat.

[CWebster]

44. She

is losing her wits.