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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 08:56 AM
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Is The Force With John Kerry? Can the "Zen Master" Do it Again?

The Force is with us!







Could Rolling Stone's Will Dana have nailed it better: “John Kerry projects an aura of friendly confidence that suggests he is either out of touch with reality or has the serenity of a Zen master.”



Is Kerry a Zen master, or what!

The Big-Unions go for Gephart and Dean; Kerry is serene.

Dean rounds up all the Big-Name endorsements; Kerry is serene.

Campaign runs low on money, Kerry puts up his house; Kerry is serene.

Big Media ignores Kerry and focus on endless Dean and Clark stories; Kerry is serene.


No wonder all the real inside politicos are a little distant from John Kerry: he is just too freaky cool!

Could Kerry sweep to victory in New Hampshire against Dean and Clark?

Could America possibly elect for a President as independent, as qualified, as Zen, as John Kerry?



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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:05 AM
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1. Don't be surprised if the NH'ers reverse course in the Iowa vote
I don't know what the exact history is but NH wants to keep itself relevant and involved so they might vote Dean just to exert their influence and keep the race going.

AS I have said before the dust won't settle until Feb10th at the earliest probably more like March 9th in the southern swing.

I think NH claims to be more accurate in picking eventual nominees.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:17 AM
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3. The history of New Hampshire is to reject whoever Iowa sends them
Of course Kerry seems to have a lot more mojo than past Iowa winners. In 2000 Iowa went Bush, New Hampshire went for McCain
1996 Iowa went for Dole, NH gave a strong "moral victory" to Forbes and Buchanan
1992 Iowa went for Harkin, NH went for Tsongas
1988 Iowa went for Gephardt, HN went for Dukakis
1984 Iowa went for Mondale, but Gary Hart got a strong moral victory in NH

The voters of the two states are as different from each other as, well, Iowa is from New Hampshire
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:26 AM
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8. which candidate inreased his support by a factor of 10?
kerry doubled his numbers. edwards came from 4 to 36.

now...where is "the force"?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:19 AM
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15. True. Also the "favorite son" factor is compicated by Vt./Mass.
I believe Dean will win because his support seems so solid. But Kerry will be a strong second.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:13 AM
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:19 AM
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4. ouch, was that really called for?
Why can't you be more civil, like Dr Dean?
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Frederic Bastiat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:19 AM
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5. Sour grapes?
;)
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:22 AM
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7. Nope.
Beat you guys by 18 percentage points. :D
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Frederic Bastiat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:30 AM
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9. Wow
And you were the frontrunners eh?

;)
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:32 AM
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10. Still are.
Shall I quote you a New Hampshire poll? ;)
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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:11 AM
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12. Dean, the previously unstoppable front runner
finished in 3rd place with only 18 precent of the votes. 3rd place! AND, according to just about every single news poll, there are like 22 to 26 precent of voters who are still undecidied. Just like many iowa voters were. And Kerry annd Dean are just about neck and neck now in NH.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:13 AM
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13. Kerry is in third in NH
It helps to post links to your arguments.
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Frederic Bastiat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:16 AM
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14. Do you have a post-Iowa NH poll?
Inquiring minds would like to see it.

;)
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 02:37 PM
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16. Yes. Kerry is the undisputed underdog. No key edorsements, No money, No

pundit boosters.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:20 AM
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6. Endless Clark Stories Distorting His Congressional Testimony?
Kerry smeared Clark implying that Clark did something illegal or unethical. Hands out fliers and has a webpage doing this.

IT's about time the public gets a look into Kerry's carrying water for the Telecommunications Industry.

In fact, Center for Public Integrity has published a book in 2004 FEATURING Kerry's Unethical Behavior.

So please don't complain if Chris Lehane or anyone else holds Kerry accountable for his actions and retaliates for his Negavtive Campaign.
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junker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:56 AM
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11. Kerry just another bonesman. Might as well be Bush for
all the difference. ALL persons living an oath to a secret society should be banned from running for Pres just like felons. Where is the honor if Kerry were to win the presidency and then take the OATH of office to protect the constitution when he has already taken an OATH to the Skulls to "Pledge and swear alligence ONLY to the society of Skulls& Bones, above all other oaths, unto his death."

Yeah, right, like ALL the independent voters of the USofA are going to get reeeeal exicited about which of the two secret society members to select as our next King-for-a-while.


If democrats don't feel it, then perhaps they are losing some touch with the other 3/5s of the country. Those of us of democratic upbrining who have gained some knowledge of the world see that corruption can be hidden in nice packages.

Is there any wonder why Kerry is serene? Is it because of his zen state or because his masters at skull and bones have already annoited him so he 'knows' he will get the nod?


Oh well, yet one more democratic hopeful (me) being sick to my stomach at the duplicity of the evil-ones (skull/bones) gettting their way again.

Guess I just gotta wait for AmRev2. (American Revolution Part Deaux where the people get so sick of the stink of corruption at the core of the duopoly that they rise en masse and we chuck ALL the bastards out).



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