When Democrats stop worshipping

[jarab]

certain candidates - whomever they are - and selfish self-centered causes - whatever they are - the winds will be directed toward change.

For example only, if you're insistent on sucking up to HD, good! Start a HD Party. If you want everyone to bow to your "single cause" existence, Good! Start a party with that one single plank. See how far you get.

Being a member of the Democratic Party means some sacrifice by everyone (That means YOU!!) for the good of all.

I'm hoping - even praying - that your worshipful candidate fails miserably or that measly two by six surrenders to the "massive" load you and your overwhelming number of supporters have caused to bear upon it.

It's one thing to vent our outrage, but it's another entirely to take seriously the spewings coming as a result of that outrage. Words spoken in anger are hopefully bullshit, but I sometimes wonder. Are Democrats and DUers immune to sacrifice? Or, are they willing to sacrifice so long as it doesn't "hit home"? Are we a party of one, and one more, and one more, etc? Who else is there to blame but ourselves for the recent terrible loss? We seem to have touched all bases in assigning blame - at last count 175 blames placed. Is it possible that we might come around to ourselves as the main reason?

Are our causes too self-centered and our candidates too worshipped?

I have concluded that professional politicians - which most of them have become - are generally the scum of the earth ... lying scheming artists of deception. Why worship any of them?

Who among us can enumerate his personal sacrifices for the good of the Democratic Party when that good did nothing to profit him/her personally?
Who among us is accepting to the fact that it is our party just as our children are ours - and we accept it (them) as they are - ever hopeful for some betterment through tender loving care and nurturing. That's my party. I stand on that platform with its consented designee - not that plank.

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[silverweb]

1. Huh?

That's quite a rant, but it makes absolutely no sense to me. Maybe it's a spin-off from some other thread?

:shrug:

[sandnsea]

2. You almost had me

Until this:

"I have concluded that professional politicians - which most of them have become - are generally the scum of the earth ... lying scheming artists of deception."

Which is another reason we lose, Republicans have worked really hard at convincing the masses Democrats are just as crooked as they are. From Teapot Dome to the Depression to Watergate to Iran/Contra to Bush; we ought to know by now all politicians and political parties are NOT the same.

Otherwise, yeah, I agree with you.

[jarab]

3. Working in concert, Democrats also have

the same right to convince as the Repubs. That power is not delegated or reachable only to the other party.

Mommas, don't let your kids grow up to be politicians. Cynical, yes.

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[Joe Chi Minh]

4. yeah, what a dummy!

All the evidence that Kerry/Edwards won in a landslide has gone right over his Head. Not!

Yet more evidence of the chronic loosening of the bowels being experienced by our friends. They've tried corraling DUers into a "we're too nice to speak out of turn" mindset, and are now posing as Dem firebrands, with the same divisive aims in view.

[Cheswick2.0]

5. Your angry spewing is hurting the party

it's fine if that's what you want, but perhaps you should start an angry spewing party.

[janx]

9. Did you understand it?

Because I didn't... ?

[Cheswick2.0]

10. yes...he's angry because people have convictions

and says that makes us angry spewing losers. We should shut up and agree to whatever the party says and not be angry or spewing (Dean being the example of course. I think abortion would be included too if the poster is honest, since he referenced one issue voters). Of course the fact that he was spewing anger must have passed over his own head.

[janx]

12. Thanks for the translation. My first reaction was identical

to Paddy's.

[Padraig18]

6. Ummm....

:wtf:

[RegexReader]

14. Hmmmm.........

best example of requiring a 3 day 'cooling off' period before posting.

RegexReader
$USA =~ s/Republican/Democrat/ig;

[w4rma]

7. What a tub of BS. (nt)

[whalerider55]

8. action is a form of prayer....

i'm not sure (your last paragraph) whteher you are saying we should simply accept the party as currently constituted, and hope and pray for something better, or engage and educate the party to fulfill a more socially meaningful destiny.

a lot of people worked their butts off...
I agree with subsequent posters that there is evidence KE won by a landslide...

so as one of those sometimes accused of loosened bowels, being a "doomsayer" and being a freeper, I still ask the same questions- why, if we believe that the election was fraudulent, hasn't the party risen publicly to the challenge of ensuring enfranchisement?

the loss of the ability to ensure that each vote will be counted in an election degrades all elections. I believe that the DNC could have fought that argument very publicaly without raising it in the context of Kerry. It is only now, now that the clock is ticking down to zip, that some are doing so. how can we convince americans to come out and vote in 2006 when we as democrats are unwilling to fight that battle in 2004, or finally joined it when we were shamed into doing so by Libertarians and Greens? Are we saying that there is some sort of calculus to when we enter the battle over enfranchisement- say only if the 3.5 mil are there to win? tell that to all the candidtaes who lost by a few thousand vote in crooked elections. not the way to ensure nationwide or even local vote.

one person, one vote... sometimes.

and if the democratic party is a big tent, like i've thought in all my 38 years of campaigning for Demo candidates in elections, why can't some of us raise that issue here without being seen as a threat or as deluded?

whalerider55

[Nimble_Idea]

11. Hey, why not explain what HD is

you DU MASS of goodness you.

[janx]

13. That sounds a little poetic!

It really does.

[Guaranteed]

15. ROFL!!!

You burned that straw man right down to the ground. The WHOLE thing.