They Have The Tax Issue, We Have....THE ENVIRONMENT?

[nirvana3240]

So I wrote this article on my blog, http://teenageenthusiast.blogspot.com about how the entire world agrees with the Republicans on taxes and Democrats need to realize they have an issue that everyone agrees on, the environment.

No one can say they're for higher taxes, just as no one can say they're opposed to protecting the environment. (well, they can say it, but I do not think the populace will like it)

Read the article, then tell me, what do you think?

[Ladyhawk]

1. Fundies don't care about the environment. :(

They take that "dominion over the earth" verse seriously and think the rapture is just around the corner, so there's no reason to preserve the environment.

Just so you know. :(

[nirvana3240]

2. I disagree

I think people really, sincerely do care about the environment alot.

[Ladyhawk]

11. I used to be a religious reicher. They don't care about the environment.

In fact, they express disdain for environmentalists. I'm not saying all religious people feel this way. I'm talking about the nutcases who think Bush was ordained by god.

I grew up in this subculture and know its attitudes well. Don't count on help from religiously insane, but they aren't on our side, anyway. :(

[StClone]

6. They want the end of environment

As it would mean the rapture is upon us in deathly air and poison water. Suicide is immoral but kill yourself with pollution Hallelujah!

[teach1st]

3. I agree with you on the environment...

And I wish we had run with it during the elections.

Can we say we're for fairer taxes? We're for a tax policy that doesn't reward the rich while punishing those who work for a living? We're for a tax policy which keeps our nation from bankruptcy and allows for solid growth?

[Redleg]

4. The entire world does not agree with the Republicans on taxes.

People who know better know that the majority of "tax relief" goes to the wealthiest citizens. Contrary to right-wing opinion, those wealthy people don't turn around and employ more people just because they got a nice fucking tax break.

[DenverDem]

5. How exactly does the entire world agree with publicans on taxes?

The world thinks that the economic elite should be exempt from taxes? Where do you get any data to support that claim.

Democrats are not for higher taxes, that's absurd. They ARE for FAIR taxes and that is hardly what the busholini tax plan is all about.

[nirvana3240]

9. They DO agree with the GOP on taxes...

"How exactly does the entire world agree with publicans on taxes?"

The GOP has done a great job with making themselves synonamous with lowering taxes...

In the eyes of small town joe shmoe, the Republicans are trying to lower taxes. And if you think otherwise, you need to start talking to people.

[Redleg]

13. They agree with what the Rethugs say about taxes but would not

agree if they knew what the Rethugs do with taxes.

[DenverDem]

15. The rest of the world are not as ignorant as amerikkkan sheeple.

I was in England and Ireland the week after the election and even the wealth businessmen that I played golf with at the K Club in Ireland were incredulous that busholini seized power again. I had lengthy conversations with them (and many other people throughout many economic classes) and they were very worried that the absurd tax policies and irresponsible bugetary policies will cause the amerikkkan economy to collapse with disaterous results to the rest of the world. So, I've been talking to people in the EU and you don't know what you are talking about.

Just because the fools in rural amerikkka are willfully ignorant about the tax breaks for the super rich and welfare for global corporations doesn't mean a damn thing in the world.

The entire world HATES busholini and will stop his megalomaniacle imperialism if we don't.

Don't kid yourself.

[BamaLefty]

7. The Right has...

done a fantastic job with labeling us a tree huggers. People like to associate Dems as dead head Alaska tree frog kissers. :(

The environment is a moral issue to me. God created one earth in my eyes, and to destroy it to make a dollar here or there is a sin in my book.

[MrSlayer]

8. Most people think the environment is a fringe lefty issue.

Even a lot of Democrats I know try to talk me out of using it in my LTTE and stuff saying it's too fringe. It's amazing how the pukes have gotten something as important as the health of the planet to be laughed off as one of those "Crazy leftist" issues. This is the reaction I get from most people on either side.

[TayTay]

10. Ask it in a different way

We have a lot more people with asthma than we did 20-30 years ago, including many poor people. A lot of poor people get medical treatment paid for with Medicaid funds and seek treatment in emergency rooms, the most expensive treatment available.

We know that air pollution (especially untreated coal emissions) contribute to growing asthma rates. Somebody is going to pay for treating this. (Unless you want to argue that poor children should be denied medical care based on inability to pay.) It's your tax money, how do you want it spent, prevention or treatment? Make polluters cap coal emissions or spend tax money to treat ever more sick kids.

[quaker bill]

12. To some extent, they are correct.

While protecting the environment is a broadly popular issue, the support for it is quite shallow.

The easy way to figure this out is to pay attention to how much they are willing to sacrifice personally to protect the environment.

Most people are quite happy to regulate someone else's business or use of property, but they object strongly when the same rules are applied to them personally. This is not a theory, I am speaking from 10+ years of doing environmental enforcement for a living.

Worse yet, when the environment groups show up on an issue, their spokesperson is fresh off the Rainbow Warrior (Greenpeace ship). Every bit of the environment is sacrosanct, no impacts can ever be allowed or mitigated. To their minds every construction project they choose to be involved with is a crime against nature.

This is not the proper way to frame the issue.

Another problematic aspect is the way they select target projects. 10 acres of impacts for a Wal-Mart is always much worse than 20 acres of impacts for a Home Depot. They do not understand the law, and unfortunately often don't even understand the biology. Over the years I have received complaints about "threats" to endangered species. The problem is that the animals cited in the complaint not only do not occur on the project site, but occasionally do not even occur anywhere in the state.

The environmental movement needs better spokespeople. When I can afford to live that way, it is exactly what I intend to do.

[w4rma]

14. Dems have the tax issue, also. Voters trust Dems with their pocketbooks

more than Repugs. It's religion, guns and national security that Dems lag behind Repugs in public perception.