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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:52 PM
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Poll question: Binary John Kennedy Assassination Video Game Poll
Do you think the manufacturers of the game should voluntarily pull it from the market?


I do....

The manufacturers of the racist monopoly game pulled their game from the market....


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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:53 PM
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1. Hell yes. Look at what the video games are doing to some of these
kids who play them constantly. Oh wait, let me think about this a minute.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:54 PM
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2. I Dislike Violent Video Games But I Wouldn't Prohibit Them
but this is fundamentally different...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:59 PM
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5. I'd Like To Hear The People Who Voted Yes...
How about video game reenactments of Dr. King or Malcom X....

Or the crucifixion of Christ...
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:44 PM
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27. Are you sure....don't you mean
you'd like to hear from those of us who voted "no"? I did, because I don't believe in censorship of any kind, and I have adult sons who play with violent video games and they aren't axe murderers. I wouldn't advocate giving this stuff to kids....but adults have every right to offend. Yes, it's offensive....but that's about it.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:58 PM
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3. They should do what they want to do
Nobody is being forced to buy it or play it. I certainly never would.

I have absolutely NO interest in dictating to anyone what is or isn't offensive.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:00 PM
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6. I draw the line somewhere...
do you have any boundaries?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:00 PM
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7. I draw the line at my own nose n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:01 PM
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8. by then it might be too late....
nt
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:02 PM
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9. That is the price we pay in a society with free expression n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:03 PM
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10. It Was A British Company....
nt
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:07 PM
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11. And that matters how exactly?
I support the right of free expression. Even if I find the content extremely offensive.

People should set their own personal standards and not set them for others.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:14 PM
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12. I Said The Company Should Voluntarily Pull It...
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 07:14 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
What if I wanted to make a video game of the lynching of Matthew Sheppard or Barry Winchell...


Would you recommend that I voluntarily pull them from the market?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:26 PM
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13. No. I think I've been very clear
that I wouldn't make that recommendation.

I think people are FULLY capable of making the decision themselves. It's not my job to determine what is and is not appropriate.

It is my position that everyone should do their own personal censoring.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:27 PM
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14. So There's No Place For Shame In Your Society....
Is it your position that no act is worthy of opprobrium ?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:36 PM
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16. I think that each person is capable of determining what is shameful
on their own. I certainly don't need anyone making that determination for me.

For instance, the Catholic Church finds homosexuality quite shameful. I do not. I'm fine if they don't support homosexuality but I am not so fine if they actively attack it.

I will not support things that I find shameful. But I am wary of actively opposing something just because I find it offensive in the extreme. I think this is the safest way to proceed in an open and free society.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:44 PM
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19. That is the problem
and the whole justification for free speech.

I don't want the Satanic Verses pulled, either.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:49 PM
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21. Of Course...
but even in an open society there is a place for shame...

I think the makers of that game should be shamed not punished by law but shamed....
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:54 PM
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23. Well, shaming is fine
but I get nervous about the idea of pulling offensive materials out of circulation. What would you say if the Satanic Verses, or the van Gogh film were pulled due to their offensive content?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:59 PM
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24. I See Your Point...
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 09:00 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
My idea of what is bad and your idea of what is bad can be different...


But a videogame where you can "reshoot President Kennedy in the motorcade" is pretty awful....

What are boycotts?


Aren't they democratic movements to effect non-governmental change...


on edit- look at all the mucle put on Sinclair Broadcasting by the left and it worked....
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:38 PM
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25. But Stolen Honor wasn't "pulled from the market"
My great objection to that was that a media company was using the airwaves to make an illegal campaign contribution to Bush. If it had just been floating around the way Going Upriver was I would probably not boycot anyone because of it, even though it was all lies.

But even if the case had been made to pull SH from the market, I would still view the two situations differently -- "it's offensive" and "it helps Bush get elected" are two different kinds of counterargument. The first kind I'll almost always be against, the second kind requires individual weighing and measuring before I'd take a stand.


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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:42 PM
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18. Maybe an American company
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 08:43 PM by PsN2Wind
SELF Deleted for tastelessness
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:46 PM
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20. yes and our free expression means we can put all the pressure we
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 08:47 PM by Cheswick2.0
want in the manufacturer or this game to get it recalled. We do it by public discussion, boycotts etc....
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:52 PM
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22. Thank You...
Isn't that the hallmark of an open society....


That game is horrible and the manufacturers should be shamed into pulling it from the market...

Not by force of law but by the will of the people ...

I wonder how that poster felt about the "muscle" put on Sinclair Broadcasting to pull or edit it's Swift Boat Liars inspired hit piece on Kerry....
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:36 AM
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28. I agree. Free expression is a beautiful thing
I encourage you to participate fully.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:58 PM
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4. If they won't pull it I wonder if Jodie Foster will do voiceovers
for the Reagan game.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:33 PM
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15. The Use of a Government Official
and an American Icon to many nin this way, is insensitive to those who revered the man. I believe this is an effort to marginalize popular Democrats. They had to have known what the reaction would be.

Who's next? Martin Luther King?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:42 PM
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17. To me, the true offensiveness of this game, aside from the violence...
...and the fact that it claims to re-enact an actual murder, is that that's exactly what it does NOT do.

It's a piece of propaganda designed to push the ludicrous theory that Oswald and his magic bullet did everything.

A more realistic game would have Hunt & Sturgis coming out of the grassy knoll, signaled by Poppy's Cuban friends with umbrellas (it wasn't raining, BTW)
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:49 PM
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26. Keith Olbermann gave the name of the manufacturer
and the name of the man who runs the company tonight on Countdown. Have I mentioned in the last five minutes how much I love that man?
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