What is going to be the next U.S. military quagmire courtesy of the GOP?

[Anarcho-Socialist]

Enabled with Military Draft 2005

[Maat]

1. Nigeria?

Husband says there's some nice resources there * might want.

[Hobarticus]

2. CUBA...someone we can beat up on easily eom

[UpsideDownFlag]

3. France. they're getting too uppity. nt

[Fleurs du Mal]

7. France has every reason to be uppity...

with their emerging psuedo-democratic relative.

[UpsideDownFlag]

9. ...sarcasm, anyone?

:hi:

[Fleurs du Mal]

11. Forgive me

I have sinned :+

[Doctor_J]

4. Probably Cuba

they would be the easiest one to dispatch.

[petepillow]

5. Defending our own country, once the exponentially growing

army of America-haters have caught on that we're over-extended abroad. I know that's about the most pessimistic guess, but damn, I just haven't been able to get it out of my head. Does the terrorist network really care that much about Iraq that they're gonna keep on concentrating on it indefinitely?

on edit: i'm too gloomy to type carefully.

[bullimiami]

6. ill be surprised if they can get out of iraq.

i think they are stuck and that is it. bush cant give up his prize and the iraqis are not going to sit back and let us run the place.

if bush cant pull troops out he cant start another big war.

[mmonk]

8. Gee, so many to choose from

as we "spread democracy" and "liberate" countries. Syria or Cuba. Maybe somewhere in Africa. Looks like the world is going to try and block an Iran invasion.

[Fleurs du Mal]

10. Syria is a good possibility

though I'm skeptical as to whether Bush will ever get our troops out of Iraq.

[PurityOfEssence]

14. "Real Men" might attack Iran, but Syria's the PNAC's next target

Not only is it an obvious move to secure the gem of creation, Israel, but the IDF will provide much of the manpower.

Iran's nuclear facilities may be popped, but it's a much bigger and populous country with much thornier terrain.

Of course, this is all premised on rationality, but even for the overreaching imbeciles in this administration, Iran's a tough nut to crack.

[not fooled]

19. yeah, Syria's next

on the bully-boy principle that these kooks (PNACers) attack the weakest and most defenseless.

Also explains why North Korea, much more of a genuine threat (esp. given the counterproductive macho posturing and insults emanating from the WH) is safe for the forseeable future--they can fight back.

Such noble foreign policy...makes me proud to be a 'murkan (NOT)

[Cronus Protagonist]

22. Yup, they need an easy win - Syria has its pants down

And remember all the stories about how Saddaaaaam may have moved the WMD to Syria? Watch them bubble back up to the surface as they prep the media and the public for the next offensive.

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[PurityOfEssence]

23. Israel IS the United States in the minds of these nuts

To a certain degree, Israel is more important to the PNAC mob.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

12. vanity kick for more votes n/t

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

13. Iran

The buzz is building up to a fever pitch in GOPher circles. Strategically and economically Iran's the ultimate prize-- total control of the Gulf oil export routes. Enormous oil and natural gas reserves. Access to all the Caspian Sea/Central Asian fields to one-up Russia. From a Strategy Page-wonk's perspective, probably even better than control of Saudi Arabia-- with Iran, the US very nearly would rule the world's economic resources, have a chokehold. Maybe once a century that a country would have such an opportunity. Plus more than a few far-righters are itching to avenge the hostage crisis in 1979; one poster even mentioned that Iran might be shifting over to business in Euros rather than dollars. Can't have that.

In practice the whole plan would be pure madness-- Iran would be all but impossible to conquer-- but we have the same Pollyannas planning Iran policy as that of Iraq, all those allusions to a crumbling regime, grateful Iranians welcoming us with flowers, never objecting to all the US military bases and contractors invading the country's soil. Stupidity never kept an armchair general from the field of battle.

[AmerDem]

15. Our own country

will be in a quagmire very soon.

[AntiCoup2K4]

16. If Castro dies, Cuba suddenly will become infested with "Al Qaeda"

Not really, of course, but that will be the justification.

Jeb's greatest wish is to be able to deliver Havana to his Dad on a silver platter before Poppy's eternal reassignment to Satan's CIA. Just a matter of who croaks first now......

[Djinn]

17. Syria

it was seen as an extension of Iraq by many anyway and they wont attack Iran just yet for the same reasons North Korea was always safe - they actually have WMD

[tinkerbellnorth]

18. U.S. News and World Report 11/22/04

Cover Story
The Iranian connection

The Baghdad files: A trove of secret intelligence reports spells out in chilling detail how Iraq's dangerous next-door neighbor is aiding the anti-U.S. insurgency there.

We are being prepared for the next step in a multi-step process.

Step 1. Step off cliff

Any guesses as to step 2?

[cleangreencar]

20. Canada!

Blame Canada!

[Selatius]

21. Invading Iran doesn't make sense

Iran has just announced that they'd freeze enriching uranium after the Europeans managed to cut them a deal. If they freeze enriching uranium, then the Europeans (France, Germany, UK) won't refer the issue to the UN Security Council and won't impose economic sanctions.

Also, the US is tied up in Iraq. The original plan envisioned a drawdown of troops in Iraq to a faction of what they presently are. Of course, things have not gone well in Iraq. They're going terribly up until now. The simple fact is Iraq is turning into a blackhole as far as US resources are concerned. It continues to suck up more resources.

I believe Russia realizes this as well, and I believe it was why Putin would interject into US politics those odd few times to nudge Bush on. I assume that he figures that as long as men and resources are being wasted in Iraq, then there wouldn't be as many men and resources that would be available to expand into Central Asia and gain more of a grip on Central Asia's oil resources.

We don't have the manpower at this point to attack and occupy Iran. It's three times the size of Iraq, and it's population is around 70,000,000. Compare that to Iraq's 25,000,000. Even if we were to go after Iran, the most I'd see is that we'd launch airstrikes against Iran's nuclear facilities and that would probably be it. Israel would probably be involved as well. It may, in fact, be Israel that does the bulk of the work, while we provide logistical support.

We would also have to worry with dealing with China and Russia if we do anything to Iran that would involve full-scale war and invasion. Iran is a big fuel supplier to these two powers, and Iran buys Russian and Chinese military equipment. Russia and China would not entertain the idea of US forces parked around Iran's oilfields. They would not be happy, and neither would the EU. It was Russia that sold Iran some of that nuclear fuel that was being enriched.

We would need a draft to take on Iran, and I think most politicians on Capitol Hill would try to avoid that barring anything like another terrorist attack that would force the issue.

[joanne]

24. Wherever Crashcart and Halliburton can profit the most

Gee I wonder which country * will say next "hates our freedoms"?

[LittleClarkie]

25. I voted Syria BUT I fear it will be Iran

and that would be damn dopey of them. Even my Republican friends acknowledge that Iran is much more organized militarily. One mentioned on Sunday that he though if we were smart, we'd leave Iran alone and let the generation of Iranians coming up now topple the status quo themselves. He thinks it could happen without us interferring. He also thinks that Bush will not draft, because that would also be a supremely stupid and bad move in terms of military morale. He pointed to Vietnam as an example of what drafee morale looks like.

I expressed doubt that we'd be smart but said that I hoped he was right.

I have a bet riding on whether or not we invade either Iran or Syria and also institute a draft. It's the bet I did NOT want to collect on. I wanted to collect on the Kerry landslide bets I made with three other people.

I think if we attack one more country, and start a draft, there will be more Conservative, non-neocon Republicans on board the "Get Rid of Bush" train.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

26. Equitorial Guinea.

Africa....you're next!