IM sick of this Kerry won BS FACE reality

[Was_Immer]

Even if Kerry had won OHIO he would have lost the popular vote.

He needed to win by a HUGE margin to really win the election. Imagine what the talk shows would have made 4 years of a Kerry presidency if he had won but lost the pop. vote, or just barely won. HE needed a landslide.

It didnt happen. Youth vote never materialized, anti war votes never materiallize, Fahrenheit vote was non existance!

So stop. Stop saying we won. Fact is our party is a POS. We dont have leaders!

[sonicx]

1. "Imagine what the talk shows would have made 4years of a Kerry presidency

if he had won but lost the pop."

right, they really were hard on * these last 4 years, weren't they?

also, STOP with the "youth didn't show up" crap. They did...but so did everyone else.

[Was_Immer]

3. What was the change from 2000 in terms of youth

NOTHING

[sonicx]

8. did you listen to me?

everyone else turnout too. that's why the percent is the same.

[Was_Immer]

11. SO basically

People from fahrenheit 9/11
Anti War
Youth

They all got evened out by Born again fu*ks

Then we will continue to loose. Thats even worst!

[sonicx]

13. your point?

[Was_Immer]

15. Other than you are dumb. My point is we will continue to loose

For the facts you laid out. WAKE up to reality.

[Hello_Kitty]

4. Because it was *, not a Democrat. n/m

[DancingBear]

2. Gee, you're not too transparent, are you?

Go back to you-know-where.

Moran.

[Was_Immer]

5. Everyone who disagrees with you is a freeper

Thats the winning attitude. Keep at it, that way we'll get a Democrat elected next century! WOW Im shocked at how some on here create their own reality.

[sonicx]

9. have any advice to give, o wise one?

[Was_Immer]

14. Ya dump the issues that sank us. Gay issues and abortion

Done, you win with that formula.

Right now we are the party people choose only when they get mad at an incumbant. We're not a party people flock to.

[sonicx]

17. OK then, get to it. go canvass.

[m berst]

20. no?

Hmmmm....

"We're not a party people flock to"

Why would you say that? We all saw a LOT of flocking.

Let's look at what is so clearly wrong, wrong, wrong with these elections results, and not go off on a "what's wrong with the Democratic party" tangent, and let's question anyone who tries to deflect us from this. That's my opinion.

[dolstein]

6. Young voters turned out, but so did everyone else

Turnout among young voters was up over 2000, but turnout among other groups was up too, so their share of the overall vote remained the same.

[sonicx]

12. Thank You. I'm sick of my group getting blamed. We were the only ones

that voted for Kerry too.

[FrenchieCat]

7. Kerry Won!

[m berst]

10. it is not about Kerry

This election is but one more chapter in an ongoing theft of our democracy. To think otherwise requires us to reject and invalidate everything we know to be true about the people in this adminstration.

[NYC Liberal]

16. If Kerry lost,

Bush didn't win. At least not legally.

[nemo137]

18. Won or not, Bush is still in office, and we have to deal with it.

I agree, we should focus on keeping him from doing an irrevercible damage.

[jackson]

19. Read Greg Palast - Kerry did win.

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won.php
And you're saying Kerry should not have taken the victory had he won Ohio? Bush took it in 2000 without the popular vote.
Until we do something about these suppression tactics - also see http://www.opednews.com/thoreau_110404_diebold.htm - the deck is always going to be stacked against us. We have to expose their cheating to the light of day before it can be stopped.....