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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:12 PM
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Please, won't you stop this?
This bitterness and recrimination serves only two purposes--- to further demoralize our friends and allies who are already hurting, and embolden our enemies. There will be plenty of time to analyze the mistakes and develop strategies designed to not repeat them, but for the love of god and this republic, stop this insane, self-indulgent NONSENSE!

:grr:
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:13 PM
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1. We need time grrr
some bitterness is good maybe
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:17 PM
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4. It will never go away, unfortunately.
The stuff you're seeing now is, in many ways, a continuation of the bitterness from the primaries and the 2002 elections. People look for ways to continue it.

There's a lot of positive energy here, and a lot of great people. Even the shitheads have a lot to offer. But there are also a lot of people who would rather point fingers at people than point the way to solutions.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:15 PM
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2. Give it a couple of days.
There's two years till the next election. I think some spleen needs to vented right now. Let 'em get it off their chests. It'll be OK.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:15 PM
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3. Give it a few days
People are going to need time to digest this...turn of events.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:18 PM
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5. It's vent time
I am running the gambit. Pissed, tears, to a simmering rage.

It's all there.

My brain is starting to clear, but I will continue to have these emotions and will let it out when it needs to be.

It's not a bad thing. We'll get it together and continue the fight...only we'll be stronger. I truly believe that.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:19 PM
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6. Well it is called the "Fighting and Acrimony" forum
Sometimes you need to fight, and scream, and yell at the ones you love to let it all out. The ones you love should understand the depression.

Tomorrow we will all hug and begin again.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:20 PM
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7. Time to be angry for a while
It's healthy and it will pass.
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footinmouth Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:20 PM
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8. People need to vent
I've only posted in the self-pity thread today, but I'm reading everything. People are dealing with this the best they can. We're all different. It will take some time to get over this.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:22 PM
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9. Padraig ? ...
IF you continue to attempt to make others do your bidding, you must be prepared to suffer disappointment ....

As awful as it may seem ... you really are powerless over other human beings .... ESPECIALLY when you do the 'self righteously indignant preacher' thing .... It really doesnt work ....
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:23 PM
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10. This is the Fighting and Acrimony forum
If it's too much for you, please visit the Healing and Solace (or whatever it's called) forum.

Some of us are pissed.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:27 PM
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11. I like you Padraig, but there is a time in which people must grieve.
Fortunately for us, DU is closed off to visitors right now, so except for some lurking no-good-assholes, we're alone here to express our grief. I for one, have been as positive as possible until the moment Kerry conceded. Now I need to let my frustration and anger out. I have nowhere else to do it. It is not self-indulgent and it is not nonsense.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:29 PM
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12. Let everyone be where they need to be today...
they deserve some vent time.......
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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:32 PM
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13. Come back next week

Right now we're still fighting for this election.
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:33 PM
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15. Padraig - glad to see you are okay (great post yesterday)
You know the one I mean. I'm sure most folks here do.

Most of here have anger that needs vented - but me , its outwards baby...this "circular firing squad" shit is totally counterproductive. Bottom line is we all thought there was a real chance of making this happen. ( No-one will convince me this ALL above board but I havent ordered the tinfoil yet)

These bastards decided to "Fred Phelps with a kinder face" this thing and we ( not to mention the Media Whores ) didnt call them loudly enough on it. Dont even get me started on the Cheney hypocrisy afterwards.

Anyway - I'm with you - enough of the internally focused shit - let it out , but remember where the target is (or should be)
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:35 PM
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16. Ignoreland... Sums it up for me today. Tomorrow will be better, but
I know that this is vitriol no solution spleen-venting But I feel better having screamed
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:40 PM
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17. its always nice to have hope but
But two terms of Bush will destory us and there will be no comeback, there is no point in trying to analyze the election, theres going to be no secert weapon for us in 2008, the votes wont be counted, America will never be the same again.
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:44 PM
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18. Not that it matters, but the freepers are laughing their
republican asses off at us! We are making a real show of ourselves to them.I hope they enjoy.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:46 PM
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21. WTF cares what the hell THEY are doing ? ...
Honestly ... my digestive tract doesnt pulse to their heartbeats ....

I could give a fuck WTH they are doing ....
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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:45 PM
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19. Oh shut the fuck up.
We lost. OK?
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:46 PM
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20. Yea REALLY I can't wait to work for DLC pimps again....nothing better
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 05:55 PM by RapidCreek
than loosing over and over and over.

I kept my damn mouth shut and played the support the fake Democrat game for two fucking years. I campaigned for the sons of bitches...and made every effort to quell my desire to point out what a bunch of chickenshit pussies I believed them to be. I knocked on doors....I made phone calls....I wrote letters to the editor. I did these things on the fascist side of a fascist state in a fascist town where everyone knows everyone.

I listened to cowards, panderers and chickenshits explaining why it was important to run molly coddling Republican light candidates....I swallowed my pride put my head down and fought. The fuckers I fought for said they'd wait untill the very last vote was counted before they threw in the towel, win loose or draw...predictably they didn't. THEY FUCKING FLIP FLOPPED....AND IF SOME FREEPTARD WANTS TO COPY AND PASTE MY MOTHERFUCKING POST HE CAN BE MY GUEST. If I am hurting some DLC pricks feelings let me utter a HOO FUCKING RAH! I'd be kicking the shitstains in the balls if I could. I should have stayed home and not voted....it didn't mean a shitting thing anyway because I live in a red state, right?...At least I wouldn't feel like I just got punked by the guys I worked for.

There will be plenty of time you say? Shit pal, you don't take a corpse to the Emergency Room...you take it to the fucking morge. If the Democratic Party ever wants my support again they damn well better flush that crew of turds who call themselves the DLC, right down the crapper where they belong. That is all the analyses that needs to be done.

Demoralize our friends and allies? Shit...I don't know who the hell they are anymore.

Im not venting or healing or any of the rest of that pop psyco-babble bullshit. I'm remarking on the stench of shit I've made every effort to ignore for the past two goddamn years....and I'm making quite friggin clear that the DLC WILL NEVER AGAIN GET A MINUTE OF MY TIME OR A PENNY OF MY MONEY. They can go to Haliburton for both.



RC

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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:56 PM
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26. Unfortunately, you're not alone, I'm afraid...
There's a lot of us who jumped back into major-party politics this year, because we knew that the only hope we had of dumping Dubya was to do it in the Democratic Party.

The party took us in, took our money, our time, and in the end decided not to fight as hard as we wanted it to.

But it ain't over. Hell no, not by a long shot.

If anything, this election is a mandate for some serious leadership change in the DNC. Kerry and his DLC pals will be tossed out on their sorry asses for fscking this one up so bad. We were running against a trained chimp, yet the closest we could come was a fscking DRAW? :wtf:

This election proves, once and for all, that the Wall Streeters who have run this party since 1992 have no fscking clue about strategy, vision or winning a national election.

Time to take out the trash. So long McAuliffe, Rubin, etc.
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sub.theory Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:48 PM
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22. No thanks
I'm fucking bitter as poison and angry as hell. I'm not just going to swallow some prozac and make happy faces. Fuck that. It's time to get mad as hell. We need total gridlock in this country. Nothing gets done.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:48 PM
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23. I'm not "Venting" or "healing", I'm disgusted.
And, this isn't "Oprah".

We were screwed, blued, and tatooed by the combination of the RNC and their DLC allies.

If you want "positive" vibes try the freeps, they're feeling very positive now.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:50 PM
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24. Go to the "General Discussion: Help and Support " forum.
This is the one for "Fighting and Acrimony." People handle things in different ways....
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:51 PM
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25. I hope some folks will channel their energy into
election reform.

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FIGHT! Take this country back one town and state at a time!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:59 PM
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27. Yea that's a great idea...I'm sure you'll be able to convince the
fascists who control every facet of our countries management structure that it would be to their benefit to do so. I'd start with Florida...if I were you.

RC
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:05 PM
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28. You'd be surprised. States with Dem governors and and Legislatures
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 06:05 PM by GreenPartyVoter
might go for it.

we've got clean elections here in Maine. We might get ranked voting too.

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FIGHT! Take this country back one town and state at a time!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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