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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:33 PM
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Who here just flat out refuses to believe these numbers?
Am I mad? In denial? I'm angry at Kerry for conceeding.
Angry at the country. But I can't cry and I refuse to turn on any news shows. Maybe for the next four years, I don't know.

Diebold? Rigged? I don't know.

But I just don't believe it. I just don't.

Why doesn't the reality match the vote? Or ARE we the ones out of touch with reality? We thought this was America. Now, I'm one of those lefties ranting about AmeriKa or something.

I refuse to believe. I just do. They lied about everything else, why should I believe this?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:34 PM
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1. me
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theriverburns Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:35 PM
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3. Me too
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prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:35 PM
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2. I cannot believe it. I cannot. I can't. I can't believe it.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:35 PM
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4. WE ARE NOT OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY!
54 MILLION WHO VOTED FOR cAPTAIN aWOL ARE OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY....we have the facts on our side and we have to get to a point where the facts mean something. Bush is all about making the facs irrelevant and they are winning!
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:39 PM
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10. I know!
Last night seems unreal. It seems unreal. I just feel like it's not real.

They lie and the people buy it, facts are turned to spin, turned to outright propaganda. Appeal to the fear.

But still. Who were those people waiting in line to vote? Republicans? No, you can't make me believe that.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:36 PM
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5. Right here.
I don't trust the bushies and KARL ROVE!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:37 PM
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6. In some states, I believe it. In those that used Diebold or had
thrown out absentee Dem ballots, as had been said by some media outlets (and how did they know that x amount had been tossed, huh?), I sure as hell don't believe it.

There are legitimate questions here and I am disgusted by anybody who wilfully ignores them because that likely fraudulent system means the extermination of free and unfettered elections. FOREVER. So, yeah, I am annoyed at Kerry for ignoring that.
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:38 PM
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7. Its bullshit. This country's fucked. Maybe someday we can rebuild.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:39 PM
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8. I don't believe it
If I were "one of those lefties ranting about AmeriKa" there were a hell of a lot of others there at the rallies with me.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:39 PM
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9. it's not too hard to believe when you look at the anti gay votes
and that many people who voted for bush did so because of "morals" and some of these people even admitted to having questions about his policices in iraq , war on terrorism, economy.

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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:42 PM
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13. I know, the southern states but here in Oregon
we had an anti-gay marriage ammendment that passed too. But Oregon still went Kerry, our senator stayed Dem as did our Rep. I know I saw a lot of anti-gay marriage signs even in my liberal area.

But still they DID NOT all vote for Bush even if they voted against gay marriage.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:40 PM
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11. I don't trust e-voting.
But it's not just that. It's the intimidation and the attempt at suppressing as many minority votes as possible.

I'll never swallow the bush Kool-Aid. Ever.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:41 PM
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12. Yo.
It didn't happen this way. I still believe if it was a fair count, we would have won.

So much for the days of fair counts.
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RememberTheCoup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:45 PM
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14. ditto
Too many Republicans were not supporting Bush.
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SeanQ Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:47 PM
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15. I have yet to see anything to convince me there was not foul play
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:49 PM
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16. we were robbed
it will get worse. get yourself and your families and your money out of the country. remember hitler tried to get the jews to leave germany, and only started exterminating those who didn't leave voluntarily. leave and let them have their "rapture" by themselves.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:50 PM
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17. I don't believe them
I'll never believe them
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:51 PM
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18. I do not believe it for a second
I feel a quietly simmering rage.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:53 PM
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19. I do!
This can't be true. They didn't win honestly the last time, and I am absolutely convince that they didn't this time either.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:53 PM
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20. There was something wrong
The vote fraud was huge. It is all in the exit polls. The early concession means it will go down the memory hole, though.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:56 PM
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21. The numbers are not believable. And they cannot be proven.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 03:57 PM by Eye and Monkey
It really is that simple.

And I believe it is up to the claimant to prove it - not for us to prove fraud - for the republiCONs to prove that the votes are there. They cannot.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:57 PM
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22. I refuse to believe it
yes it was rigged.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:03 PM
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23. How can one believe the numbers
when enormous numbers of votes have yet to be counted?

How can one believe the numbers when enormous amounts of people voted on touch screnn machines?

We were fucked while the whole world watched.
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:03 PM
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24. I don't believe the numbers from Florida
not by a longshot.
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