Folks, we got an ass whuppin'

[Walt Starr]

Face it, learn from it, and stop making the same mistakes the Democrats have made over the past decade. Creating excuses is what the Republicans did for four years. They no longer have any excuses. They own this motherfucker and they have to accept responsibility for it top to bottom now.

Back to your regular DU experience.

[GiovanniC]

1. They Never Had Any Excuses Before, Either

They had the media, the Supreme Court, the House, the Senate, and the Executive branch. Plus a ton of the state governments as well.

STILL nothing was their fault.

Why expect that to change now?

[Walt Starr]

2. There's nobody left to blame

:evilgrin:

[Kagemusha]

3. Americans in general have no excuses left.

The US now has the president it deserves with a mandate retroactive to '00 and effective to '08. Next stop is Fallujah. All aboard!

Later destinations: US Supreme Court, the expected attempt to destroy Edwards so that Hillary can run in '08, and a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

[shance]

4. No we did NOT. We have built a great coalition of kick ass Americans.

Don't internalize what needs to be EXTERNALIZED!!

Now we need to let other people on this planet know that WE ARE THE MAJORITY and we as true blue citizens will take this country back.

[tom_paine]

5. You think they'll EVER stop projecting, blaming others, creating false

realities with their Totalitarian Sub-Media?

Damn, did the Nazis stop blaming the Jews once they "owned the whole thing?"

Did Stalin stop blaming Trotsky?

No, as they gain MORE control, particularly the infromation apparatus, it will get WORSE.

People think it can't get any worse than it was before? Laughable. Things are about to get MUCH worse!

[BootinUp]

6. Have to agree.

as painful as it is.

[DU9598]

7. Trial Lawyers

That is the target. Once the lawyers are gone, they have total, unchecked control. Please support your local trial lawyers. If there are anti-trial lawyer reports in local media, please write LTTE's.

Thanks!!!

[TNOE]

8. I'm fucking sick and tired of your posts today Walt

give it a rest.

[Walt Starr]

13. Don't like 'em, don't read 'em

Sorry, I'm laying out the reality of the situation as I see it.

We should allow the GOP to run nearly unchecked for at least one year. We MUST choose filibusters extremely cautiously for the next year. Replacing the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS isn't one of them. You're replacing one rightwinger with another.

That's our only hope of making inroads in the Congress in 2006. Let 'em get it so messed up that the electorate sees the mistake and reverses itself in the midterms.

[TNOE]

16. Exactly HOW Can I NOT to read your thread title?

We got an ass-whuppin - You can bet this post will be posted over at the Nazifreerepub site and RightNation. YOU ARE NOT HELPING BUT HINDERING - IS THAT YOUR PURPOSE?

[Walt Starr]

23. HINDERING? IF we do not admit reality, we cannot begin to recover

Sorry if the reality screws with you. IF you cannot handle the reality of the situation at this point in time, I suggest you move over to the other GD forum.

I'm concerned about rebuilding, not fucking tinfoilhat excuses like "BBV".

We got our ASSES KICKED! The sooner we accept that fact, the sooner we can start to work on 2006.

[TNOE]

28. It is You who is not living in reality

it is you who is delusional. The exit polls were wrong, but the electronic machines with no receipt were right. The tens of thousands of young voters who registered because they felt Bush was a warmonger and didn't want to see a draft came out and stood in long lines to vote for him. The previously employed whose job was shipped overseas stood in long lines to vote for the guy that sent them there. Yeah, right.

I'm not going to support this thread anylonger. There is NOTHING to rebuild, the world is going to go to hell now Walt, there will never be another fair election. IT IS YOU WHO DOESN'T GET IT.

[Walt Starr]

29. Fine, you never had to post in this thread to begin with

Sorry, but I'm not wearing a tinfoil hat. LIHOP, MIHOP, and BBV are crap EXCUSES. I'm looking at REASONS.

I will not go down the conspiracy theorist road on this.

[RafterMan]

9. Past decade?

You are too kind.

The Dems still haven't figured out how to beat Nixon.

[Walt Starr]

I'm only going back to where we lost the House

The House was the last vestige of the people and we no longer control it and have lost ground big time.

[giant_robot]

10. I disagree

They'll just pass the buck, like they always do. In the meantime, our oh-so-intelligent voters have given these dipshits a mandate to give our country away to large corporations, stack the supreme court with right-wingers, dismantle social security, destroy our environment, and invade countries on false premises. Hell, even if they do take some blame, we still get the raw end of the deal.

[Alpharetta]

11. 51/49 is not a mandate

The population is evenly split between the spiteful and ignorant vs. the aware.

The only asswhipping is in the media. If the media was 51/49, Howard Dean would be our next president.

[lancdem]

12. It's an ass-whipping when you realize

we should've won this election, not lost it. Bush was a vulnerable incumbent who by all rights should've been beaten.

[Walt Starr]

15. It sure as hell is a mandate

when you control both houses of the Congress. Also, the fact that he got a majority of the popular vote indicates a mandate.

[derbstyron]

18. It's going to be "seen" as a mandate (media, the repukes, etc.)

that's all that will matter. :(

[DemoTex]

20. Don't forget the four-or-so seats on the Supreme Court the GOP will get.

It is a mandate and an ass-whuppin'.

[Emboldened Chimp]

19. They don't care if it's not a mandate...

They'll run ramshod over everything anyway.

[Teaser]

14. Yep.

We've got a pretty good start at an electoral machine here, but that's all it is. The Repubs have a well oiled monster of a machine.
Just gotta keep tinkering.

[indyjones1938]

17. No we didn't

It was quietly stolen, under the radar, in hard drives in electronic machines where nobody could see the fraud.

"I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the President next year."

- Wally O'Dell, CEO Diebold

John Kerry and John Edwards and - for once - Terry McAulliffe ran a very good campaign. They took the high road while their opponents were spewing mud and hate. They bear no responsibility.

The 51% of Americans who want a theocracy and police state, along with the enablers at Diebold and ES&S, bear the responsibility.

Take names. The 2008 campaign begins today.

[Cush]

21. Agree, the DNC needs some bigtime changes

it was obvious after the 2002 midterms, maybe now they'll see it

Edit: It was close, but I wouldn't call it a whuppin'

[wiggs]

22. We got an ass whipping...

but IMO not because the policies of BA are right...not because people believe in BA policies....not because people don't want to change presidents in wartime...not because they are proud of the last 4 years...

but because this administration, its campaign, and the media were willing to lie, distort, cheat, mislead, grab power, and crush enemies to an extent never before anticipated.

I could handle it better if I simply believed that I was in the minority in terms of policy opinion...but I'm pissed today that dishonesty worked as well as it did. Apparently, the steady pounding of blatant lies over the course of three years is a successful campaign strategy.

Enron = Worldcom = Halliburton = US government. No difference

[Walt Starr]

25. Now you're learning from the ass whuppin'

We have to play the game dirtier, nastier, and craftier than they do.

That's the reality.

[NewJeffCT]

24. are you kidding? They still have tons of excuses in the arsenal

No flu vaccine or more uninsured? Blame the greedy trial lawyers.

Gas prices skyrocket? Blame Democrats for blocking the energy bill & not allowing drilling in ANWR.

Osama hits the US again? Blame Bill Clinton for not taking Osama's head when the Sudan offered it to him.

[Walt Starr]

26. They own the motherfucker

The excuses no longer fly. They own it.

[greenohio]

27. This whole strategy of running left...

is just a bad plan. Gore did it, and failed to be president. Kerry did it and lost. We need another Clinton. We need someone perceived as a moderate... a new Democrat from the midwest or south.

[GreenPartyVoter]

32. Sorry, neither Gore nor Kerry ran from the left. *lol*

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[JDPriestly]

30. Let's start a movement

to make Howard Dean head of the Democratic Party.

[mzmolly]

31. We were out organized and had too many cooks in the soup.

Rove organized the GOTV effort for the R's. We had scattered well meaning grass roots groups who didn't know who was doing what.

They calculated their efforts and won because they were strategic. We fought with our hearts, they fought with their heads.

[Walt Starr]

33. They also coordinated 527 actions behind the scenes

in a way that they can never be linked.

It was brilliantly devious albeit blatantly illegal. They gambled and won.