No Surrender, Baby: Howard Dean for DNC Chairman

[WI_DEM]

If Bush does go on to another term we need to hold his feet to the fire. He should get absolutely no "honeymoon" from our party. The stats don't lie he would be the first president to be so narrowly elected since 1916. His 51-48 popular vote is hardly a mandate, but he will treat it as such, just like he treated his 550,000 vote loss in 2000 as a landslide. We need someone who is highly visible to counter Bush in the media and among the rank and file and frankly, I don't think anyone would be better than Howard Dean.

I also believe there should be a condition attached (which would reasure those who might want Dean as DNC but not as a candidate for president) and it would be this, that Howard Dean would spend the next four years electing democrats to congress and elsewhere and winning back the presidency in 2008--he should pledge that he, himself, would not be a candidate and use the postition to promote his candidacy.

I strongly supported Dean for the nomination this year, but now in my opinion we need his guts and fire for the next four years in this most visible of posts--watching George W. Bush.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Well, we need someone.

I think that McAuliffe's record speaks for itself.

[WI_DEM]

3. He has not won one election cycle in his tenure

I've been saying get rid of him for two years, but obviously I don't have any clout :) The Clinton's wanted him.

[DemNoir]

2. He must go

How many of Mr McAuliffe's disasters must we sit though? His strategies for congressional races are disastrous. We need a change now.

[seraph]

4. James Carville DNC Chair. (nt)

[WI_DEM]

6. Carville is a brilliant strategist but we need someone who can

talk and often people can't understand what the Rajun Cajun is saying. Plus he promised his GOP wife he wouldn't give up his lucrative million dollar plus pundit gig.

[hexola]

9. No way....we need new blood...

Im so sick of Carville...he is completely played out...

[VolcanoJen]

12. Agreed. Carville's best days are behind him. Give me DEAN!

We need to stay energized, and slightly angry.

Carville will not be able to deliver the passion for us... it's not 1992. That became excruciatingly clear to me this morning.

:-(

[goddess40]

5. I strongly agree, after the 2000 roll over something should have been done

McAuliffe gave the White House to the fascists in 2000 without a fight. That whimpy tustle they gave in Florida was laughable and self-serving to the rich Dems.

[spotbird]

7. I second that motion. nt

[lapislzi]

8. I think you're onto something here

Second the motion.

[Eurobabe]

10. Nasty letter on its way to DNC

Fuck the IOWA and NH deciding the candidates

Make Howard Dean the new Chairman OR I cut off funding.

[saracat]

27. Oooo, now that's scary.

[WI_DEM]

35. if enough people do it

it might work.

[Ready4Change]

11. Good idea.

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[ProudToBeLiberal]

13. I agree Dean is the man to take it to george bush. nt

[ps1074]

14. Not gonna happen

The party will pretend that nothing has happened and will move on.

[WI_DEM]

16. The DLC is the most counter productive element in our party

[ncrainbowgrrl]

15. I do believe that you are on to something-

It IS howard dean after all that gave the dems back their spines, and got youth excited about getting involved in the process. He is a true leader- more of a movement than of any one political campaign, imho, and THAT is a quality that I would love to see in the chairman of the DNC. I'll qualify my statement even more- I was not a per se Dean supporter during the primaries. I Do, however, see the amazing capability of one man to bring so many disinterested/disaffected/disgusted people back to the party, and that is pretty awe-inspiring.

[GodHelpUsAll2]

50. Several won

and those who didn't are still fighting. They didn't conceed immediately.

[quaoar]

17. Does anyone know

how Dean's candidates did?

I agree, though, that Dean needs to be DNC head. We need a fighter and Terry McAuliffe ain't gettin' it done.

[WI_DEM]

46. apparently several won and several lost

but at the grass roots level in state legislative races many first time candidates won.

[okieinpain]

18. I would agree with that. it's time for something new. this centralist

shit is not working. and there is just no way I'm becoming a repug. time for a new coach, and dean is it.

[MissMarple]

39. Does anyone know what our values are?

We have let the conservatives and neocons define us. We need to identify our traditional values, and find ways to spread our message. Values must come before issues and issues before programs.
Talking about a health care plan before people understand why that supports the values outlined in the Constitution, the values that brought us together and helped build our country just isn't working.

What is commonsense to us goes up against a rhetoric that promotes a some bizarre trickle down theory that unfortunately has been accepted by the American people.

[ArtVandaley]

19. I agree, that would be perfect for Dean

He wasn't presidential material, but I loved Dean and he'd modernize the party, recruit good candidates and take the fight hard to Bush.
Perfect choice.

The 21st Century Democratic Party:
DNC chair- Dean
Senate Minority Leader- Durbin
2008 Nominee- Feingold
And training and waiting for 2016/12: Obama

[GodHelpUsAll2]

51. You're right

"he was Presidential Material" We needed someone Presidential and electable. That's why we choose Kerry. So he could look presidential while conceeding.

[Historic NY]

20. Excellent idea Dean Chair & James Carville Vice-Chair

We need to put together a progressive operation and Dean is the man to do it. Our hot button issues just don't seem to hold water any more. We can't be everything for everybody if the message is crushed. I think a plan is needed that reinforces the wrong track theme, the country is on. Clinton was at his best when he spouted numbers out on the stump. People do think about them. The Dems need to show the people what they are actually missing out on. Too much time was wasted on defending 30yr old issues that had nothing to do with this election.

[formernaderite]

21. Absolutely....dump Terry !!!!

....I still love Howard, even my Libertarian wife would have voted for him.

[Snivi Yllom]

26. It's time for Kerry and Shrum to go

All of them

Clean house. A new direction.

[WI_DEM]

43. Shrum, this is what his fourth losing presidential campaign?

[saracat]

22. Democracy is finished as you worry about DNC chair?

[WI_DEM]

28. you may throw in the towel

but not me. I want a fighter up against Bush. Go cry your tears elsewhere if you can't fight.

[Shopaholic]

23. That is the best damned idea I've heard today--

is it not clear to these sorry DLC types now that we need to be Democrats again???? That the Howard Dean wing of the party is the only way we're going to take back our country again???? Remember-Dean was the candidate that Karl Rove said he DIDN'T want to run against--and who was delighted when Kerry won the nomination. Howard Dean for new Chair of the DNC--starting TODAY!

[WI_DEM]

24. So John Kerry already threw in the towel, after his running mate

made the statement that "every vote counts" early this morning. Ok, Howard come on, we need some spine.

[Snivi Yllom]

25. Im all for that

I think a big mistake was made in not choosing Howard Dean as out candidate.

[The Chronicler]

29. How is Dean gonna help us win the midwest, south et al?

[WI_DEM]

30. By being a fighter

That is the job of the DNC Chairman. Dean is a moderate by the way.

[The Chronicler]

31. I like his stance on guns etc.

He might be damaged goods, but I don't know.

[WI_DEM]

44. his gun stand is a plus

as well as his reputation for fiscal responsibility.

[ScreamingMeemie]

45. My God, you should have seen the turnout for him in Wisconsin and Michigan

Give it four more years of Bush pillaging and raping and half of this country will be blue.

[WI_DEM]

32. Even Kos has endorsed Dean for DNC

http://www.dailykos.com

[depakid]

33. I'm sorry, it's over

Wait and see what's about to happen.

[WI_DEM]

34. What's over?

not the fight against Bush and Dean is the man, imo, who could most effectively lead the DNC.

[cjbuchanan]

37. Kerry is over

But we will fight on. We need to come up with a better agenda and sell it better.

Bush might be around for 4 more horrible years, but that does not mean we give in. We can still fix this, but only if we want to.

[cjbuchanan]

36. Dean is a great idea

I think this would help us in a big way. I come from a very repug family, but all of them like Dean. They would never vote for him and they think he might be a little crazy, but they think he says what is on his mind.

The question was asked how Dean would help in the South or the mid-West. My simple answer, guns. Dean has a high rating with the NRA. Don't get me wrong, the NRA would still come after him, but it would be much harder. Also, his economic ideas do hit a cord here.

I think Dean would help fix our direction.

[WI_DEM]

38. I think it will be a interesting question who is DNC chairman

I'm sure the DLC will fight it as hard as they fought Dean as for President, but we gotta fight them too.

[fishwax]

40. Would that it could be so

he has some original ideas on how to spread the democratic message. I supported him in the primaries, and I think he'd make a great DNC chair.

[sybylla]

41. You're GODDAMNED RIGHT (rant warning)

I'm so fucking sick of liberal wussies trying to lead my party off a cliff. WTF is the matter with these people? Doesn't Kerry see that by conceding, all of the voting shenanigans, at least the ones the rest of us have any money left to battle, will get buried by the fucking whore media until after the next election, and the next and the next until a Dem with a spine realizes that and stands up to fight against it. Kerry didn't concede to the chimp. He conceded to Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia and Wally O'Dell. He conceded to the shamless pukes who blatantly disenfranchized voters while they faced the media with a pleasant smile and pretend efforts to register voters.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Why is it the DNC doesn't realize that this isn't about winning and losing, it's about how the god damned game was played.

[WI_DEM]

42. kick

[mediaman007]

47. He's deserving

[Obviousman]

48. The time to act is now

People, if we are going to do this, we have to act fast. It's hard because everyone is in a daze right now, but we HAVE to act and show the party that Dean needs to lead the DNC. Also, we need to act fast on the Senate Minority leader. Reid is from Nebraska, he's a mormon, and he's opposed to abortion. He's hardly a democrat. They will try to push the party right, we need to slam it to the left. Get Dean in as DNC chair and get an equally firey senate leader.

[Guaranteed]

49. YES. That will be an excellent start. nt